What capacity is your fresh tank?

[Cleanworks]

Good variety of opinions. It really comes down to what is appropriate for your truck, climate and cleaning conditions. I don't run a fresh water tank as I am in a relatively warm climate and even if water is turned off on the outside, I can usually find it on the inside. Has never been a problem here. If I was in a rural and colder climate, I would like to have the butler setup with 210 tanks. You can fill your truck, keep it warm in the garage and make it to your job without freezing. Calls for at least 1 ton van though. For residential, most could get by easily with a 100 gal tank but for large commercial, you might be running out. I have a couple of old plexiglass pump outs that hook up in line with my vac hose that I use on large commercial. I don't seem to seem a lot of new ones on the market.

 

[Pioneer Floorcare]

Get a real pump out next time Mark, not that joke that butler calls a pump out.

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I do love our 210 waste tanks...

We have had some 110 waste tanks also, but again dealing with cold half the time and even access to pump out areas can be a pain....

Or pump outs that never work when you need them....

 

[Papa John]

100 gallon works for us.
On our 2500 van I ask the tech not to fill it up completely if he is picking up rugs or can' dump the waste tank.

You should choose a capacity that works safely with the vans GVWR

 

[Lee Stockwell]

125 fresh in the WM, two 100 waste tanks. Still have to refresh some days.

160 fresh and waste in the Ford / 405. Usually gets thru any day.

 

[ButlerFrank]

200 fresh. It's nice never having to worry about needing to fill up during the day.

 

[Bob Savage]

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I do love our 210 waste tanks...

We have had some 110 waste tanks also, but again dealing with cold half the time and even access to pump out areas can be a pain....

Or pump outs that never work when you need them....

I have a pump-out that doesn't fail.

Yes, we get below zero here , but not as cold as where you are.

 

[Mikey P]

You should choose a capacity that works safely with the vans GVWR

100 waste, 65 fresh

 

[CJ-FL]

110 fresh and 60 dirty tank.

I keep an eye of the fresh tank throughout the day, and try and leave the last job full on the fresh. On-board water softener keeps the water soft and ready for action!

Since I have an APO, my recovery tank never gets fuller than 30 gallons all day long, with no "pulling the dump gate" dumping except when we get back to the shop at end of day. The tank is usually empty then, except for maybe a couple of gallons. This is done so the APO filter can rinse itself off at the end of the day and rinses the tank bottom (sloped bottom).

If water wasn't so heavy (8.5 lbs. per gallon), I might carry more, but even with 100 gallons we still can't make it through the day running a total of #14 flow, on an average day.

 

[Dolly Llama]

I think weight constraints come into play along with the average cleaners unwillingness to realize that the modern cleaner just needs to many tools to put in a standard van.

stole my thunder, Chevvie

weight cap of single wheel axle vans becomes a reality.
add 1600 pounds (200 gal of fresh or waste ) to a well equipped van , and you're pushing the limits of 9600 GVW vans
(in particular if a large slide-in unit)

donno if "unwillingness to realize" is correct though.
It can also be a matter of practicality for the average Tom, Dick and Larry .

Dually box trucks are more expense to run daily (fuel)
don't bee-bop around town as quick 'n easy, nor maneuver in and out of tight drives in Resi-Ville
(77.98% of people can't drive period....now put 'em in box truck )
They simply may not fit best for the average BD's everyday practical needs ...and won't fit in 69.72% of their garages either.....


..L.T.A.

 

[Mike Draper]

Im in the same boat as saiger. I carry 200 fresh and 200+ waste. In may and august when we clean college apartments it makes all the difference.

 

[Askal]

100 and 150. Only keep 100 in the 150.

 

[Jim Williams]

Where do you dump water at if using the apo?

On an EPA approved bush.

 

[Mikey P]

Great question for @CJ-FL ...

 

[GreenTechAgain]

60 fresh/60 waste.

Neither are big enough.

Freshwater gets me going to pre-spray and while it is dwelling, I hook up supply.

 

[sassyotto]

Water Pond. 120 gallons which will last all day residential - for me anyways.

 

[CJ-FL]

Great question for @CJ-FL ...

Great question for @CJ-FL ...

No freshwater. Our system taps into the customer’s hose bib. I believe our dump tank is 60 gallons (not positive) and utilizes an APO.

 

[Mikey P]

No freshwater. Our system taps into the customer’s hose bib. I believe our dump tank is 60 gallons (not positive) and utilizes an APO.

So you have on on board softners?


Lordy but your tap water here is disgusting...

 

[CJ-FL]

So you have on on board softners?


Lordy but your tap water here is disgusting...

Corporate makes them available to us but most do not incorporate them into their trucks. They are 2 smaller units (maybe 2’ tall each). In speaking with SS owners that have used them, they said they didn’t see much difference. Maybe they’re just undersized or just not regenerated often enough. Not sure. We’ve never utilized them in our locations.

 

[hogjowl]

It’s just another bulletin board butt buddy thing

 

[GeneMiller]

200 seems about right. Might split it and carry it on the sides next time instead of in the middle. I can't imagine being without it. With zero lot line water can be a long way away. I plan ahead and only connect when its easy.. Some of the complexes here have no outside water available and some homes are on questionable wells. Saves me time.

 

[CJ-FL]

is Anyone carrying a 200 gallon of more fresh water tank in a 3/4 or 1 ton van or am I to assume these are all in box trucks or trailers?

A transit for example has a max payload of 4000 lbs. if 1700 is water, that’s going to pushing the limits I would assume with kubota, blower, pumps, tanks, techs, tools, etc....

 

[Desk Jockey]

160 & 200 in boxe trucks, the vans only 100.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

It's an "either/or" situation. As one tank goes down the other rises. If I have 160 fresh onboard I take it a bit easier until it goes down.

Usually load 100 gallon or less, the full load is for situations where I know there is poor access or water quality. I love having the capacity, though I seldom max it out.

I do many lake houses with such situations. Fill where I can, dump where I have to, keeping all in balance.

Having large tank isn't a problem. Running out of water ten miles from the nearest spigot is a BIG problem.

 

[jwfoulk12]

is Anyone carrying a 200 gallon of more fresh water tank in a 3/4 or 1 ton van or am I to assume these are all in box trucks or trailers?

A transit for example has a max payload of 4000 lbs. if 1700 is water, that’s going to pushing the limits I would assume with kubota, blower, pumps, tanks, techs, tools, etc....

1 ton transits can handle a 5000 pound payload.

 

[bob vawter]

This thread made me think about it....

Are you guys using the little washer inlet screens. ...I seen a lot of Wells pump out sand.once in a while. ...?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

My well at the farm sometime had massive sand when neighboring farmers were pumping to irrigate.

I had to have a 40 gallon accumulation tank for the sand to settle out BEFORE the filter.

I don't miss it.

 

[bob vawter]

Sounds lik a nitemare. ...

 

[Mrice]

This is Florida, last week I wasn't using an inlet strainer and a dead lizard got stuck way up my hose at the elbow for the live reel. Good times.

 

[Hack Attack]

This is Florida, last week I wasn't using an inlet strainer and a dead lizard got stuck way up my hose at the elbow for the live reel. Good times.

I feel your pain I've done the N.Z. equivalent, we've got an insect here called a Weta (the bush god of ugly things) the small ones quite like hanging out in outside taps...

 

[Roland]

100 gallons on 2 trucks and 120 on another. Auto pumpout on all 3. If i'm doing large commercial, I hookup hose and pumpout so I don't have to stop.