What is he leaving in the carpet?

[DrUmM@sT3r]

Another cleaner in my town is leaving I’m guessing pretreat in the carpet or some wrongly mixed protectant? Take a look at this black / darkening of the carpet. It’s even all over, not just in the high traffic areas. This 2nd & 3rd pics were cleaned last July & it took me 6 hrs to bring this house back to clean. This is the 3rd home this guy has left like this. The 1st pic he cleaned one year ago, again it turned black.

 

[Mikey P]

Are you sure it's the cleaners fault?

Could be carpet deodorizer, dog out, dys residue etc



Or the cleaner is and emulsification hack.


Did you acid rinse?

 

[Nomad74]

I have four theories,

1. He used a detergent rinse that left a residue that caused resoiling
2. He didn't use an acid rinse that caused browning from the alkalinity in the tap water and or high pH of his prespray.
3. The customer is just dirty and it's his fault for not getting the carpet cleaned sooner than a year. You might be the next cleaner blamed for his mess next year at this time.
4. A mixture of any or all of the above.

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

Are you sure it's the cleaners fault?

Could be carpet deodorizer, dog out, dys residue etc



Or the cleaner is and emulsification hack.


Did you acid rinse?

They only use a Shark vacuum & clean the filters about every month. They don’t put any products on the carpet. Yes I rinsed with All Fiber Deep Clean pH 5.4 I believe. I normally clean this house, they used him last time because I was off due to surgery last July. When I clean it, it doesn’t turn dark like this? Just a little in the high traffic areas? (This guy has a BaneClean and has been cleaning longer than me?)

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

I have four theories,

1. He used a detergent rinse that left a residue that caused resoiling
2. He didn't use an acid rinse that caused browning from the alkalinity in the tap water and or high pH of his prespray.
3. The customer is just dirty and it's his fault for not getting the carpet cleaned sooner than a year. You might be then next cleaner blamed for his mess next year at this time.
4. A mixture of any or all of the above.

I think it’s 1 or 2, it was really thick and took my RotoVac many passes to cut through it. Our water is hard here, so I’m leaning towards #1.....

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

Are you sure it's the cleaners fault?

Could be carpet deodorizer, dog out, dys residue etc



Or the cleaner is and emulsification hack.


Did you acid rinse?

The customer told me he used a wand - and when he applied the protectant, he did not rake it in.....

 

[Mikey P]

Bane...


Over use of chems to compensate for lack of performance.

 

[Zee]

He's just assuring returning business....

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

Due to fact it’s dirty right in front of that end table (this is a formal living room and no walks by that end table or couch) they use the family room. The fact it’s darkening everywhere makes me think it’s a chemical issue not a soiling issue. It looks like a pretreat left in there and not being properly rinsed away....?

 

[Mikey P]

You know what a Bane is right?

 

[steve_64]

Pca5 and bad water is my guess.

I started having issues with pca5 when I was running my Bane. After I switched to cleanfree at Jim pembertons advice I saw an improvement on repeat jobs.

I'd also have them check their furnace and AC filters or check them yourself to see if there is something in the air causing faster resoiling.

After looking at the pics again ask them how long it took to dry.

 

[Old Coastie]

Is there a source of pollution, such as candles, air fresheners, cooking, a nearby freeway, PG&E power plant? It may be feeding the residue.

 

[Mikey P]

Bishop's only source of contaminates is dust from a nearby dry lake bed

 

[Dolly Llama]

Bishop's only source of contaminates is dust from a nearby dry lake bed

do we know the indoor environment though?
what/how much do they cook?
what do they heat with?


looks like residue from a mega resoiling soap to me

only thing that makes me think otherwise is this;

it took me 6 hrs to bring this house back to clean

generally soap residue resoil is pretty easy to make disappear while cleaning
(getting it ALL out, might be more difficult) but it's easy to get an immediate dramatic appearance with little more than water only pre-spray 'n dwell




..L.T.A.

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

You know what a Bane is right?

No clue about Bane?

 

[Dolly Llama]

No clue about Bane?

weak, lectric powered TM
Built like a tank, but less performance than an average $1800 porty

..L.T.A

 

[Clean Response]

Usually I see this after a rug doctor cleaning...

Chem left in carpet. Easy fix, to average Joe we look like super hero for fixing it but nothing hard to get rid of. Normally you will see before and after pictures of some cleaner trying to impress people., truth be told could just use water and rinse the chem that is there will clean it enough already for you and will look like. new.

Make sure you get it all out it will look like that again shortly.

 

[hogjowl]

If you don’t toot your own horn, you’ve still got sit around and hear Saiger blowing his.

 

[Old Coastie]

You got some gristle in your craw?

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

Pca5 and bad water is my guess.

I started having issues with pca5 when I was running my Bane. After I switched to cleanfree at Jim pembertons advice I saw an improvement on repeat jobs.

I'd also have them check their furnace and AC filters or check them yourself to see if there is something in the air causing faster resoiling.

After looking at the pics again ask them how long it took to dry.

Those pics are of 2 different homes with the same soiling & same cleaner. It’s him....

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

Usually I see this after a rug doctor cleaning...

Chem left in carpet. Easy fix, to average Joe we look like super hero for fixing it but nothing hard to get rid of. Normally you will see before and after pictures of some cleaner trying to impress people., truth be told could just use water and rinse the chem that is there will clean it enough already for you and will look like. new.

Make sure you get it all out it will look like that again shortly.

This was nasty - barely came out with Flex Powder & max heat on my Apex, could it be his protectant or a Bane malfunction? (Knowing this guy, I’d put money that he short cutted something or over did the pretreat)

 

[hogjowl]

Leave my butt crack out of this

 

[DrUmM@sT3r]

weak, lectric powered TM
Built like a tank, but less performance than an average $1800 porty

..L.T.A

Wo....really? Didn’t know anything about them....my Apex was 23k back in the day, how much is the average Bane go for?

 

[hogjowl]

Nobody here will admit knowing what today’s price is

 

[Nomad74]

https://www.baneclene.com/

 

[Dolly Llama]

how much is the average Bane go for?

no clue
it was over 25 years ago when I considered one .
Bill Bane was very convincing, but I chose a gas TM instead ...and boy am I glad I did

..L.T.A.

 

[Nomad74]

This video is pretty Rad.

 

[Bob Pruitt]

Maybe he used the fabric protection that attracts dirt.

 

[Nomad74]

Another good one. Can you guys imagine me trying to unload this thing. I would roll it over myself for sure.

 

[Cleanworks]

Normally, it's just too much chemical left behind. Guys who glug instead of measure. Especially, if you are using soft water you can reduce your dilution rates. A Bane or low portable compounds the problem by leaving too much chemical laden moisture behind.