What will the PTO/CDS market look like...

[Mikey P]

In 5 years?

Begin speculating.....

 

[JohnHawkP]

My first TM was a PTO 30 years ago.

 

[Chris A]

GM's gonna continue making a body on frame van, but will probably repower it with a v6. I expect Butler and probably Sapphire to have transit based options, none of this is based in fact just reckless speculation

 

[Dolly Llama]

Begin speculating.

writing's already on the wall, methinks
Hydromaster's xDrive is the direction it's headed for the Eurofaq vans



..L.T.A.

 

[jcooper]

In 5 years?

Begin speculating.....

Well, if Butler, Cleanco and SS aren't working out how to put these things in newer vans(Ford & Dodge) they aren't going to be in business much longer.

I'd imagine they have been working in this for a while.

 

[hogjowl]

No doubt Butler will
Cleanco ... who knows

 

[Desk Jockey]

I believe the van powered will fall the way of the dinosaur.
Aerotech style or Slide-in will your only option. Butlers will not be vans but cabovers.

 

[hogjowl]

That’s cool with me

 

[Desk Jockey]

That’s cool with me

It's actually what is needed. A van just doesn't have the room to cram everything a modern carpet cleaner needs now days. Carpet, upholstery, tile, wood floors, commercial carpet cleaning equipment. Plus WDR equipment can just overwhelm most vans.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

It's actually what is needed. A van just doesn't have the room to cram everything a modern carpet cleaner needs now days. Carpet, upholstery, tile, wood floors, commercial carpet cleaning equipment. Plus WDR equipment can just overwhelm most vans.

Extended vans work great, if packed correctly.

 

[Cleanworks]

Butler, Cleanco and hydramaster need to put pressure on the government to build Toyota Hiace vans in North America.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Extended vans work great, if packed correctly.

I hate needing something at the back and needing to bend over and ape walk over things. Standing upright is so much easier.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I have a 24" x 96" x 3/4" roll out platform/ramp for the heavy stuff. Lot's of shelves and ceiling mounted stuff.

2x 100 gal recovery, 125 gal fresh tank.

 

[Nomad74]

In 5 years the market will look the same, except things will be 50% more expensive.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I have a 24" x 96" x 3/4" roll out platform/ramp for the heavy stuff. Lot's of shelves and ceiling mounted stuff.

2x 100 gal recovery, 125 gal fresh tank.

You need a box truck

 

[Dolly Llama]

Well, if Butler, Cleanco and SS aren't working out how to put these things in newer vans(Ford & Dodge) they aren't going to be in business much longer.

My "guess" is, it's not so much a matter of their engineers finding a way, it's getting Ford/Dodge/Nissan to accept the mods and warranty the van

..L.T.A.

 

[Glynn]

They'll have to pay Hydramaster royalties to use their patented system, Clever HM eh ?.

 

[Nomad74]

They'll have to pay Hydramaster royalties to use their patented system, Clever HM eh ?.

Not likely. Everyone steals everything in this industry.

 

[Glynn]

You reckon ?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

You need a box truck

Justin has one.

I don't have to climb into it, or try to climb out(remember the video?), nor do I have to worry about hitting overhangs or tree limbs.

Everything is "reach it" or "roll out" at ground level.

 

[Nomad74]

You reckon ?

Yeah. I do. I would love to see some of the guys step up and actually protect their patents.

 

[hogjowl]

I’d like to see a picture of old man Stockwell’s van

 

[Lee Stockwell]

When I start posting pictures it will be all YOUR fault.

 

[Cleanworks]

When I start posting pictures it will be all YOUR fault.

How about a video, just for Marty.

 

[hogjowl]

 

[bob vawter]

My first TM was a PTO 30 years ago.

Big Red?

 

[Cleanworks]

Big Red?

Big red was a slide in. 50hp Perkins diesel.

 

[JohnHawkP]

Big Red?

No not them

It was an Aussie manufacturer called McConnell and they used a liquid ring pump similar to a milking machine.

They are gone now. I saw one of their machines last year still going strong.

 

[Pioneer Floorcare]

I expect the other PTO offering companies will buy the electric parts from Hydramaster’s parent company and save all the R&D

 

[Lee Stockwell]

No. There's more than one way to skin a cat.