When will enough be enough?

[John Olson]

Lets cut to the Chase.

Name the single most important innovation in the last 10 years this industry has seen?

Who has been the most instrumental company in changing the physical stress on cleaners bodies?

When will this industry final stand up for these folks?

When will YOU stop supporting companies that support those that wish these folks harm?

I'm just a cracker for the streets of Northtown who doesn't know how to be politically correct but I do have GP's and this last one is right up at the top of the list of shit you don't do unless you want to be swimming with the fishes.

 

[FB7777]

Glides are the single most important innovation for me.

Without them, I don't believe I could still be out in the field cleaning as much anymore.

 

[Carpet Cleaning Fool]

Glides are the single most important innovation for me.

Without them, I don't believe I could still be out in the field cleaning as much anymore.

Ditto!

I wish there was something I could do to help.

For now, I just refuse to do business with organizations who support the opposite.

 

[Desk Jockey]

GreenGlides! 8)

 

[Mikey P]

When will YOU stop supporting companies that support those that wish these folks harm?

John does not want to put it in print in fear of late night crank calls from Tre, but TMF is doing every thing they can to take Green Glides out of your hands.

Tre got mothered into helping Lisa with that video but trust me, Rob/Crawford is out to destroy her and Jeff. The proof is in the phony postings.





and if you think that nincompoop Ken Harris could ever get get anything other then a few stolen Coat Hanger tubes out of his butt, you need a reality check.

 

[Carpet Cleaning Fool]

It would be nice if somebody had a list of vendors who support them. At least we'd know who to avoid. At best, we could try to talk some sense into them.

 

[Derek]

so many have it in their toolboxes nowadays, tho it has been around for 100 years.

i'd say the Cimex. and thanks to Rick G. for bringing attn to it.

 

[Bjorn]

give me a fooking break I was using a cimax when rickey g was ricky chemstractor and that was the tool du jour

Ed york was touting the use of the cimax and LST long before rickey chemTstractor

 

[rhyde]

yep, glides

 

[Mikey P]

the Encap/Cimex myht should not even be in the top five.


maybe justifying in our minds that scrub and run techniques could be.


1.Glides
2.Internet marketing
3.Bulletin Board awareness
4.2.5/High Performance TM tweaks
and....

 

[Greenie]

Actually I would say say the INTERNET in general is the most responsible, without it all the other cool stuff never would have made it past the pages of a trade mag., and just been another "thing" a cleaner would wonder about but probably never buy.

As for supporting TMF and Rob's agenda, I do thank those who have the clear vision to see through the smoke screen, it wasn't but a few months ago Rob was requesting permission to sell GG....he's truely scum, and self centered in his motivations. But i am realistic, I don't expect Suppliers and Mfgs. to pull their advertising on that board, but I will say it does speak volumes to those in the trenches on where your priorities are, and the industry is indeed watching.

 

[Derek]

greenie nailed it.

if you's dont like my opinion, that makes me somewhat amus

!gotcha!

 

[Desk Jockey]

It makes a sad statement about people that enjoy seeing another person suffer and continue to make it harder on them.

I don't see what they get out of it? :?

 

[Jimmy L]

Remember Derek when I mentioned going to a Ed York class down in KC back in the early 90's?
He did a demo of the cimex using LST.

I mentioned this on the ICS board a few years ago.


Then some SHAMPOO Gawd picked up on it and began selling these warranty BUSTiNg machines and selling some relabeled mist and brush.

Some say its the CORE PRODUCTS shampoo now.


The biggest invention has been the internet BB's.

Still not a believer in Glides.

:shock:

 

[Ken Snow]

I wish I knew wtf you're all talking about.

 

[Shane T]

Greenglides would be at the top of my list. There no way I would be cleaning today if it were not for them. Six years ago I was going to get out of the biz, got my first glide and went back to work.
I have done some buisness with John Olson and will do more in the future. Since I don't go to that other board, could someone tell me who it is that is supporting them?

 

[joe harper]

Ken, I think DADDY was trying to say... :arrow:

 

[royalkid]

I think that if i was a SS chimp vs. a CD chimp...no question...Glides. For me, personally, the RX-20 is one the great tools out there that i'd hate to go without. But overall, I believe that glides have made the biggest impact on this industry.

 

[Ryan]

You guys know if both boards would stoped fighting, formed an internet trade organization and started marketing for the independent cleaner and educating the public about HWE on a national level we could screw the hell out of chemdry. They are the ones that spent millions to take glides away from cleaners.

 

[truckmount girl]

Ryan is right. As long as our industry remains as fractured and fractious as it is we will continue to be held to submission by large companies and franchises.

There are those with selfish and/or greedy motivation who promulgate the discord.

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Desk Jockey]

and if those countries in the Middle East would quit fighting with each other we would have world peace too!

 

[Ryan]

Give me a break there is a huge difference between two carpet cleaning communitys and the middle east. Don't you guys all hate Chemdry more the TMF?

 

[royalkid]

I disagree Ryan...maybe if a "true" education about HWE years ago would have hurt CD, when bonnets were used as a sole/primary method...but convincing folks of the benefits of HWE is on CD's agenda these days...remember, it's now used by CD.

 

[truckmount girl]

It's HCE not HWE Peter....geez there's a BIG difference! :wink:

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Ryan]

Theres a little difference between some warm bubbles at 150 psi and a fire breathing high flow wand.

 

[royalkid]

It's HCE not HWE Peter....geez there's a BIG difference! :wink:

Take care,
Lisa

You're right, but I wasn't gonna go there Lisa...that's funny shiteatinggrin

 

[royalkid]

Theres a little difference between some warm bubbles at 150 psi and a fire breathing high flow wand.

Ryan, it's a lot more than "warm"...and it is extracted, so you can say what you want...but it is HWE...oh wait, i mean HCE. Regardless of what you think of HRI, the CD process is a good one. A CTS-450 w/ powerhead will keep up with your "fire breathing high flow wand" anyday.

 

[Greenie]

I have to agree with Peter (except he hasn't used a Greenhorn at 700psi yet)

Even though I was/still am on the receiving end of a HRI/Chem-Dry lawsuit, I don't beleive CD is the enemy. HRI can still kiss my ass but I don't have any issue with the run of the mill daily CD operator.

At this point as we go into 2010, there most definitely is the CD of yesteryear, and todays low flow single chemical detergent, hot water extracting, RX20 using truckmount operated CD cleaner.

In fact I'm willing to bet a new franchisee isn't even taught the bonnet method anymore, why would he be, there isn't much money in selling a floor buffer and a stack of pads...the money is in the juice, the very expensive juice that is required to clean everyday using the current HCE equipment.

Maybe Peter could share with the class the real cost to mix up a 5 gal canister of Natural these days?

On that note, Granted the poor tech is expected to clean an entire house with 20-30 gal of 200psi water....but it's being done with hot water and truckmount extraction, so meet your brethren, the low flow low pressure cleaner using your same toys is here to stay...and it's not a two-part solution anymore, so is it really even carbonated? Not anymore than MasterBlend Soap Free at a fraction of the cost.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I hate the Chem Dry corporate, yes.

TMF I don't hate the people, but I certainly don't think I could fight a side by side battle with them either. They support and stand behind some of our industries biggest hucksters.

They have hurt and continue to inflict pain on people I care about.

They slam this place lumping us all as "the hate board".

I hate to be petty but I honesty don't think side by side is me. :|

 

[Ryan]

There isn't a local chem dry here and I get people here all the time scared of HWE from their ads and asking me if it will leave their carpet moldy. I just saw a ad in Entrepreneur Mag for chem dry that said No Mold in bold letters. I'm sure Peter is a good guy and does a good job with his equipment but their ads hurt most of us.