why is this mb'er selling his 870ss?

[juniorc82]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Sc...460?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232d4c48d4 If Im not mistaken isn't there a guy on here from tampa who just got a brand new 870? I bet this is his unit, whats the chances of an 870 from the same metro area with under 400hours on it ending up on ebay for sale? If so wonder why he is selling, that set up he had in the sprinter van made me drool it was pretty sweet.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Slow season in Florida, might have overspent?

 

[FredC]

not sure what the "chances" are but there are at least two recent threads with 870 installs........

http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showth...0SS-into-a-2500-Chevy-w-video&highlight=870ss
http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showthread.php?266134-sprinter-870ss-quick-video&highlight=870ss

probably a few more running around tampa.........

 

[Art Kelley]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Scientific-870-Truckmount-ONLY-370-HOURS-/151083829460?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232d4c48d4 If Im not mistaken isn't there a guy on here from tampa who just got a brand new 870? I bet this is his unit, whats the chances of an 870 from the same metro area with under 400hours on it ending up on ebay for sale? If so wonder why he is selling, that set up he had in the sprinter van made me drool it was pretty sweet.

Who cares what his problems are? That's a sweet machine. One of my high school classmates showed up at our 10 year reunion as a woman. Had a complete sex change operation. I had no idea he would do such a thing. People are unpredictable and their circumstances are ever-changing.

 

[juniorc82]

not sure what the "chances" are but there are at least two recent threads with 870 installs........

http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showth...0SS-into-a-2500-Chevy-w-video&highlight=870ss
http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showthread.php?266134-sprinter-870ss-quick-video&highlight=870ss

probably a few more running around tampa.........

I think there is a jon don in tampa so I imagine there a several sapphires running around. I just figure that would be a coincidence. You don't see that many everests for sale with low hours let alone in the same town

 

[davegillfishing]

I was just talking to dealtime mike about this.

I bet it gets up to 24-25k

Wonder if it still has warranty with it

 

[juniorc82]

Who cares what his problems are? That's a sweet machine. One of my high school classmates showed up at our 10 year reunion as a woman. Had a complete sex change operation. I had no idea he would do such a thing. People are unpredictable and their circumstances are ever-changing.

Not sure how to take that response art especialy after my adventure cleaning a porn shop this week

 

[juniorc82]

I was just talking to dealtime mike about this.

I bet it gets up to 24-25k

Wonder if it still has warranty with it

dave are you confirming that it does belong to the guy on here?

 

[SamIam]

http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265421


Not sure if this is who your talking about

 

[Dmreed4311]

It is not the guy from this forums(Payless) Tm. It was a good friend of mines 870ss. He did not like it because of a couple things mostly he did not like the gas consumption. He did love the performance though. He traded it in for this.View attachment 2731

Yes he put it in a connect
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[davegillfishing]

Fuel consumption?

How bad was it?

 

[Larry Cobb]

We had a customer who tried a Transit Connect with small TM & no hose reel.

His employees wanted the full size vans with hose reels so much . . .

that the Transit always developed a problem . . .

to keep it out of commission.

High MPG vans are coming.

Larry

 

[Dmreed4311]

He claims 2 gallons per hour, My friend says the money he is saving now on gas will pay for the connect set up. He put almost 400 hours on the 870ss in less than 3 months. This guy cleans from sun up to sun down 6 days a week.
He also did not like how much fresh water it wasted dumping it to the waste tank.

 

[Larry Cobb]

He claims 2 gallons per hour, My friend says the money he is saving now on gas will pay for the connect set up. He put almost 400 hours on the 870ss in less than a month. This guy cleans from sun up to sun down 6 days a week.
He also did not like how much fresh water it wasted dumping it to the waste tank.

Why would a modern TM be doing that ? ?

That is wasting HX production.

Larry

 

[mwall2230]

I love my new sprinter and 870SS. When we're dual wanding on high I'm getting 2 gallons a hour but when I'm cleaning solo the machine is on medium and it's about 1.75 gph. I'm getting about 17 mpg with the new Mercedes turbo diesel. I couldn't be more happy with my new setup.

 

[mwall2230]

Why would a modern TM be doing that ? ?

That is wasting HX production.

Larry

Larry he was running a monster TM using a low flow wand. So even when he was dumping water he had insane temps. My 870ss doesn't dump fresh water but I'm running a 12 flow ti wand.

 

[Jim Martin]

He claims 2 gallons per hour, My friend says the money he is saving now on gas will pay for the connect set up. He put almost 400 hours on the 870ss in less than 3 months. This guy cleans from sun up to sun down 6 days a week.
He also did not like how much fresh water it wasted dumping it to the waste tank.

what was he doing....running it wide open....you can throttle these machines down to a medium speed....still all the suction you will ever need....and save gas....wide open is more a duel wand mode...

 

[Lance Golden]

Mine was dumping excessively, found the bypass valve wore out quickly... This "manual bypass is used to cool down, or to clean delicate fabrics"
Now I just use a "courtesy hose to cool down."

 

[Lance Golden]

Actually Jim, "wide open" would be more for triple wanding... Maybe someone wanting to run all out, for dual wanding... I have used mine on high, but only to test temps ATW. no need...

 

[davegillfishing]

So you guys are saying the machines dump fresh water into the waste tank? Is this to cool it down or what's the deal with that?

 

[mwall2230]

On the 870 there is a 10 gallon thermal well that preheats the water to 165 before it goes to the water pressure pump and then to the heat exchangers. They do not want the water hotter than 165 going to the pump so there's a 165° thermal relief valve that will open up and dump into waste tank. This hasn't been a issue for me at all but I run a hi flow wand.

 

[Jim Martin]

When I first got mine I would open my by-pass to help cool it down...and it dumps into the waste tank...now I just throw a hose on the ground and use it to circulate water threw it and cool it down

 

[Jimmy L]

Dumping water is so old school, just like my old PC bruin would do.

I hated it for that reason too.

 

[mwall2230]

Jim, that's the same way I cool mine down as well. My machine is usually at 300 degrees by the time I get out there to turn it off.

 

[Lance Golden]

:Hose on the ground, AKA Courtesy hose?"

 

[mwall2230]

:Hose on the ground, AKA Courtesy hose?"

Lance that's what I do. Courtney hose

 

[davegillfishing]

So the hose on the ground dumps 165 plus degree water when needed instead of dumping it into the waste tank..hmmm not sure I like that if I'm understanding it right

 

[mwall2230]

So the hose on the ground dumps 165 plus degree water when needed instead of dumping it into the waste tank..hmmm not sure I like that if I'm understanding it right

No, I use the courtesy hose to cool the machine down when I finish the job. I'm not dumping while cleaning.

 

[Lance Golden]

Dave,
The ONLY time I use this hose, is when heating up, to mix chems in the hydroforce, then when shutting down to cool the water in the water box...

 

[Lance Golden]

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The hose in the top QD is a cut off "courtesy hose" Always there to fill containers or cool down. Beats the wear and tear on the valve. Or Standing there holding trigger on the wand til it cools...