Minus the advertising plugs, could I get some input on emulsifier chems that are being used in this crowd? I have been using high heat, have used dry slurry, kinda corroded some fittings. Other than those two, would be interested in knowing what is being used from those on this forum. Thanks.
Carpet cleaning emulsifiers
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Mikey P
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Are you cleaning with a truckmount or portable?
Are you pre-spraying just the traffic areas or the whole house?
Are you pre-spraying just the traffic areas or the whole house?
Good question Mike.
I pre spray all areas. Depending on Soiling, will determine which prespray product we use. (Soils and oils and grease eraser) Usually switch to the emulsifier when cleaning heavy soiled carpet. Rentals, restaurants, ect.
I have TNT units in both our vans.
Desk Jockey
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http://www.prochem.com/ViewCategories.aspx?Pid=816
We use Axion Detergent Powder for carpet cleaning. Fine Fabric Detergent Liquid for rugs & upholstery here in the shop. http://www.prochem.com/ViewCategories.aspx?Pid=841
We use Axion Detergent Powder for carpet cleaning. Fine Fabric Detergent Liquid for rugs & upholstery here in the shop. http://www.prochem.com/ViewCategories.aspx?Pid=841
Russ T.
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I've been using Blazin' Blue and really like the performance.
http://interlinksupply.com/index.php?item_num=CC29A
Have had some issues with it clogging my in line filters to wand and hydro force though. It does seem to mix easy, even with cold water so might be operator error??
Otherwise cleans nice!
http://interlinksupply.com/index.php?item_num=CC29A
Have had some issues with it clogging my in line filters to wand and hydro force though. It does seem to mix easy, even with cold water so might be operator error??
Otherwise cleans nice!
Mikey P
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So rather than go with a higher ph prespray with an added Citra booster, you switch to an emulsifier?
or do you do both?....
I would worry about chem overload if so..
or do you do both?....
I would worry about chem overload if so..
Just switch to the alkaline extraction product. I rarely add delime as booster. I do use some H2O2 when needed. But that serves another purpose. I don't like, as you say, compiling chems to get results. I would rather, work with chems in complements than just bombing flooring. I really don't want to jump to 11.5 extraction on top of a 9 pH pre spray or even 10.5.
Mikey P
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Even our worse jobs get just a neutral or acid rinse...
I'd rather hit em hard up front
I'd rather hit em hard up front
Desk Jockey
Member
I agree. Unless all you clean are "pits" then nuking everything seems un necessary.
But the majority of what we clean other than commercial is clean carpet that the client wants "cleaner".
Captain America
Member
I do use ph extraction on resturants along with preps ray......
On rentals you might tone down the ph extraction to more of a straifght water rinse...
Or sometimes I will go back and use an acid rinse on rentals to extract some of the
High ph...only on the heavy areas.....easy to do with a zipper
Cap
On rentals you might tone down the ph extraction to more of a straifght water rinse...
Or sometimes I will go back and use an acid rinse on rentals to extract some of the
High ph...only on the heavy areas.....easy to do with a zipper
Cap
steve_64
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Ive started using clean free recently and really like the results ive been getting.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Harvard Chemical guy here....
They have worked with our family and our needs for quite some time now....
www.hcronline.com
They have worked with our family and our needs for quite some time now....
www.hcronline.com
bob vawter
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Genie Care Delux Superclean is the cats azz......less residue than anything i've tried.......plus it'll knock down trees........Get it from Tom @ Modernistic Troy Mi ...
don say i didn't tell you!
don say i didn't tell you!
Loren Egland
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According to a recent article I read testing products on wool rugs, using a high pH buffered prespray even with an acid rinse, the carpet is still left with a high pH final result. On the other hand, using a high pH Unbuffered pre spray followed by an acid rinse, the carpet pH will effectively be lowered to a safe level for wool.
Jim Pemberton
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Thank you Loren.
This is not adequately addressed in most training formats today. Jim Smith is one of leading proponents of understanding buffering and total alkalinity in the training field.
"The numbers" just do not tell the whole story.
hogjowl
Idiot™
I use liquid Formula 90, or Liquid Slurry, depending on where I am when I buy.
Used to be a big proponent of powders due to the lower shipping costs, but the powders don't mix and they screw up that delicate flower called the Dwyer meter.
Used to be a big proponent of powders due to the lower shipping costs, but the powders don't mix and they screw up that delicate flower called the Dwyer meter.
Desk Jockey
Member
Quit buying cheap powders pigsnot!
hogjowl
Idiot™
Look closely at my post where I said "I use liquid..."Quit buying cheap powders pigsnot!
Desk Jockey
Member
Read yor own post dipsheet! Gawdddd!
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
if you are paying for a powder that don mix......
you're buyin the wrong powder............
you're buyin the wrong powder............
Desk Jockey
Member
Why thank you bawb!
Jack Zipper Zerkie
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How do you mix. Powder in a dry pail or powder with water in the pail. I know what works for me, but what's your mix? jz.
SamIam
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I used liquid 90 for years never had brass problems or clogging issues. I have seen more problems with dry slurry, and all the green cleaners that eat brass. I use last step, fresh water rinse, and a detergent rinse when necessary. It all depends on the situation. I do like rinsing with procyon plus also.
hogjowl
Idiot™
I've always run some type of a detergent rinse simply because it is impossible to prespray everywhere.
Unless you don't mind spraying clothes in closets or furniture and such.
Unless you don't mind spraying clothes in closets or furniture and such.
Nate The Great
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Desk Jockey
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We used that combo for decades and move to Axiom not long after its release to be a little green-er.
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
idoits.....................
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
Nate...i know i should't ask...but wtf IS that guy?
