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Captain obvious
Carpet cleaning emulsifiers
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And many presprays need more than water to rinse.
Total_Rookie
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sooo.... i take it the rinse of the month has expired?
So, I have decided to give procyon a try as my last step rinse. I bought a case so I could give a fair trial. This is the one place I have never settled in any one product since I started cleaning. These dang last step products hardly impress.
Why??? Is it because it's all a waste and I should just use h2o?
Why??? Is it because it's all a waste and I should just use h2o?
hogjowl
Idiot™
I don't think you're going to be all that impressed with Procyon as a rinse.
But it's a great prespray.
But it's a great prespray.
I marty and Spud,
I happen to love Extreme! or our powder as a pre-spray and many people like our products as a rinse. I say if you have a last step chemical injection system and want to use a little Procyon to convert hard water to soft water then go for it! The powder dissolves well in your pre-spray tank. I know that we are far from perfect. There will always be unhappy people and there will always be happy people using our products. It is better than the alternative! You need to choose what is right for you Procyon because it is soap free or detergents and the problems that come with using detergents. Are you cleaning for health or are you cleaning with detergents because you like the high pH. You will always end up with that soapy sticky residue that you know you can not rinse out of your carpet. What are your trade off's? Make a list about what is important to you! Protecting you and your customers, there kids and pets,or maybe the environment they live in.
Cancer is a big issue with me, carcinogenic is in our industry's cleaning products. I can not be a part of any poisons or toxins. It is ok with me if you do not use Procyon and you do not like it, but we think of your health, your customers health and your customers environment that they live in. Procyon is a great alternative in today's cleaning technology. Where were you over 30 years ago when I introduced Soap Free Procyon in to this industry. This product line has done a lot of wonderful things in helping to support people who need help. People may try it in there rinse and like it or not, "but it should be about choices in what you want to offer in the way of services to your customers. You can offer your customers poison or a healthier safer choice to a cleaner carpet. I would like to see everyone who uses Procyon and we would be healthier safer and we could save a life from toxic carpet cleaners. Just drink some of your carpet cleaning products and go to sleep and see if you get up in the morning. Procyon is a great pre spray. Thanks Marty for the truth about Procyon being a good pre spray and I prefer to do a fresh water rinse as well.
I hope that you care about life, your customers life and the ones they care about the most.
Thank you for your comments and I look forward to more chats,
Ivan
PS: if you are going to be in Vegas on the 9,10 & the 11th I will be teaching a powerful class at the Experance and I would love to meet you all.
Thank you all for the years of great support,
Ivan
I happen to love Extreme! or our powder as a pre-spray and many people like our products as a rinse. I say if you have a last step chemical injection system and want to use a little Procyon to convert hard water to soft water then go for it! The powder dissolves well in your pre-spray tank. I know that we are far from perfect. There will always be unhappy people and there will always be happy people using our products. It is better than the alternative! You need to choose what is right for you Procyon because it is soap free or detergents and the problems that come with using detergents. Are you cleaning for health or are you cleaning with detergents because you like the high pH. You will always end up with that soapy sticky residue that you know you can not rinse out of your carpet. What are your trade off's? Make a list about what is important to you! Protecting you and your customers, there kids and pets,or maybe the environment they live in.
Cancer is a big issue with me, carcinogenic is in our industry's cleaning products. I can not be a part of any poisons or toxins. It is ok with me if you do not use Procyon and you do not like it, but we think of your health, your customers health and your customers environment that they live in. Procyon is a great alternative in today's cleaning technology. Where were you over 30 years ago when I introduced Soap Free Procyon in to this industry. This product line has done a lot of wonderful things in helping to support people who need help. People may try it in there rinse and like it or not, "but it should be about choices in what you want to offer in the way of services to your customers. You can offer your customers poison or a healthier safer choice to a cleaner carpet. I would like to see everyone who uses Procyon and we would be healthier safer and we could save a life from toxic carpet cleaners. Just drink some of your carpet cleaning products and go to sleep and see if you get up in the morning. Procyon is a great pre spray. Thanks Marty for the truth about Procyon being a good pre spray and I prefer to do a fresh water rinse as well.
I hope that you care about life, your customers life and the ones they care about the most.
Thank you for your comments and I look forward to more chats,
Ivan
PS: if you are going to be in Vegas on the 9,10 & the 11th I will be teaching a powerful class at the Experance and I would love to meet you all.
Thank you all for the years of great support,
Ivan
ruff
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I use Procyon powder as a rinse and I am very happy with it. I find it to work much better then a fresh water rinse.
Offer,
Thank you for your support
Ivan
Thank you for your support
Ivan
ruff
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Desk Jockey
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One "F" for Ofer and one for "fooker" that's how I see it. 
What do you mean: One F will do,
Desk Jockey
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Ofer not Offer.
OOPS! one f will do
Sorry
Ivan
Sorry
Ivan
SamIam
Member
It's ok Iivan.
Desk Jockey
Member
I am glad to be part of what's good and Thank you all
Ivan
Ivan
hogjowl
Idiot™
The fact that they had to explain that to you makes me wonder if I need to use another product?
You may forget to put something in it one day ...
You may forget to put something in it one day ...
Desk Jockey
Member
More likely he will put extra in it.
Art Kelley
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Bingo. It's all a bunch of crap and you should use FWR. Especially since, as you mentioned, you prespray with Grease Eraser, which is made for FWR. People will jump in and ask,"what about under furniture where you didn't prespray?"
That is what the trigger sprayer in your pocket is for; you quickly mist on some spotter in those needed areas and whammoblammo. Why fill a room with unneeded cleaning chemical after spraying with cleaning chemical?
Captain America
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I use a pump sprayer pure spray over the whole house....
Then go back and rewet with wand spray or hydro force on heavy areas....
Rinse with an emulsifier or straight water....
On the heavy areas I will go back and rinse with an acid.....to remove any soap residue.
This last step doesn't take that long......and not much extra labor since I use a zipper.
Cap
Then go back and rewet with wand spray or hydro force on heavy areas....
Rinse with an emulsifier or straight water....
On the heavy areas I will go back and rinse with an acid.....to remove any soap residue.
This last step doesn't take that long......and not much extra labor since I use a zipper.
Cap
Marty,
I forgot how to make it - Maybe it is because I have never been the best speller. But for you I will make it extra special.
Ivan
I forgot how to make it - Maybe it is because I have never been the best speller. But for you I will make it extra special.
Ivan
ruff
Member
Marty is way ahead of you.
Nimrod 12:13
Nimrod 12:13
Hmmmmmm- 2 ounces of powder per, say 10 gallons , cleans say 150 sf. Recover 80% - now it's a powder, so surely some of it will end up in the vacuum bag. How much residue for how much more cleaning?
To prove a point- just emulsifier, no prespray:
Mikey P
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SamIam
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Procyon plus is a good rinse and prespray.
Probably best on mild to moderate condition's for people who want green cleaning and are hypo allergenic. For a 6.5 lbs jar its like $35.00 and it works.
Cobbs adds fragrance to his green product, something a fragrant intolerant person would freak on. Trashed green and magic potion also good green products have a strong smell.
Not that I get alot of hypo allergenic customers, when I do I like that I have a solid product that works.
The carbonated solutions stuff works to, just seams less economical pound for pound. especially if your pre spraying only and fwr.
Probably best on mild to moderate condition's for people who want green cleaning and are hypo allergenic. For a 6.5 lbs jar its like $35.00 and it works.
Cobbs adds fragrance to his green product, something a fragrant intolerant person would freak on. Trashed green and magic potion also good green products have a strong smell.
Not that I get alot of hypo allergenic customers, when I do I like that I have a solid product that works.
The carbonated solutions stuff works to, just seams less economical pound for pound. especially if your pre spraying only and fwr.
ruff
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The difference is that they call their products "Green", yet carry no certificate. So one has to take their word for it.
Desk Jockey
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ruff
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