PRICING COMPARISON OF BUTLER/CLEANCO/HYDRAMASTER CDS
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The price can be all over the place depending on options.
I think a good comparison would be for a unit with a 47 blower and extra blower exhaust heat exchanger. ( Max vac, P.T.I ,Salsa, or whatever they call it.).
The pro1200 includes both if I understand correctly. And that really is the way it should be. Anybody who buys a direct drive and only spins a 45 is a weirdo and probably a communist.
Butler includes installation on everything and offers a lot of options that the others don't. 210 waste, overhead water supply,filter box, stainless everything.
Cleanco offers that 56. I doubt it's much better than a screaming 47, but it's bigger and that makes it cool.
All the units except butler end up with a waterpond/ electric reel combo. So I think it ends up close to the Butler fresh tank / electric reel in the 123 package.
The pro1200 is cool because it pretty much includes the options most cleaners would upgrade to anyway.
I think a good comparison would be for a unit with a 47 blower and extra blower exhaust heat exchanger. ( Max vac, P.T.I ,Salsa, or whatever they call it.).
The pro1200 includes both if I understand correctly. And that really is the way it should be. Anybody who buys a direct drive and only spins a 45 is a weirdo and probably a communist.
Butler includes installation on everything and offers a lot of options that the others don't. 210 waste, overhead water supply,filter box, stainless everything.
Cleanco offers that 56. I doubt it's much better than a screaming 47, but it's bigger and that makes it cool.
All the units except butler end up with a waterpond/ electric reel combo. So I think it ends up close to the Butler fresh tank / electric reel in the 123 package.
The pro1200 is cool because it pretty much includes the options most cleaners would upgrade to anyway.
hogjowl
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I may look elsewhere in the future but for now the 210 waste tank is imperative for all the commercial jobs we do.
hogjowl
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I really wasn't inclined to pull the trigger until the end of the year, and was leaning towards the Butler. 210 waste tank is a big draw. As is the fit and finish. Also the possibility of good heat at 12 flow. ( Saiger I'm going to kill you if this isn't really possible.)
Then Cleanco came out with the free Aqua pond. $4200 value. But, it has to be ordered next month during the Experience. Do I want it that soon? Is that $42oo worth not having stainless steel tanks, or a 210 waste tank, or only having piss warm heat at 6 flow?
Probably not.
Then Cleanco came out with the free Aqua pond. $4200 value. But, it has to be ordered next month during the Experience. Do I want it that soon? Is that $42oo worth not having stainless steel tanks, or a 210 waste tank, or only having piss warm heat at 6 flow?
Probably not.
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bob vawter
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Chris Lee bought my BRAND NEW stainless rig for 10 grand.........you guys are too much!!!
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Does anyone know max rpms for the 47 blower on the Butler unit?
Russ T.
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Have you priced used systems Marty?
You could spend half what they are new but you'd likely be running without a warranty.
You could spend half what they are new but you'd likely be running without a warranty.
Desk Jockey
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Our high heat smokes, the guys turn it down so the Hydroforce will draw chemical. I love the heat, I turn the valve back to hot.
Butt after seeing all the weapons you carry .....
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Marty,
Talk more with Butler... They may be able to give you another $4200 off the Cleanco. They are a pretty smart company....
Talk more with Butler... They may be able to give you another $4200 off the Cleanco. They are a pretty smart company....
Desk Jockey
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LOL
hogjowl
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That wouldn't work, Rick. I am still considering the purchase of an over-engineered Sapphire just because it would piss Bruder off.
Mike at TCS and I have a pretty good relationship. (That's because he's not abnormal like you guys.) He's told me they would do any repairs on the Butler that I couldn't do myself. But, I would hate to do that to them. Besides, Saiger says the Butler never breaks down.
Mike at TCS and I have a pretty good relationship. (That's because he's not abnormal like you guys.) He's told me they would do any repairs on the Butler that I couldn't do myself. But, I would hate to do that to them. Besides, Saiger says the Butler never breaks down.
Desk Jockey
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Its a machine just like any other. It will break down at some point in time, they all do. Usually very simple fixes.
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Marty, if I can fix most things on a butler then you can do about 99.9%.
Only thing i couldnt fix so far is replace heat exchanger WE broke.
once in a while one of the connects start leaking, about the only thing that happens on a yearly basis.
Only thing i couldnt fix so far is replace heat exchanger WE broke.
once in a while one of the connects start leaking, about the only thing that happens on a yearly basis.
doylebloss
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It depends upon options you want as part of your machine, options you want with the van, and perhaps most importantly and often overlooked, what kind of price you can get on the van since you almost always have to get a van with the units. The Mikeyfest Special Edition CDS we are going to have at the Experience comes with virtually every option, wand, and tool you can imagine except for a rotary hard surface tool. You may not want all the toys we are offering as part of that package, but you can still get almost all of the discounts on the unit and the van, regardless of the options and toys you choose. If you really need a price for comparison and don't plan on coming to Mikeyfest at the Experience, private message me and we will be glad to get you a quote.
hogjowl
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If you'd get a half awake dealer in Alabama you'd be on my list.
ive looked at each unit, read the owners manuals for each, and talked to reps for the ones i was actually interested in, sapphire still seems to be the way to go. ive been in manufacturing (machining) for a long time and i can say that sapphire seems to be built like a tank, but with enough room to reach things, fix things, some of the other machines seem like everying is piled together not thinking about how to change a part without ripping off 10 other pcs to get to that part.
Maybe they are wide awake and pretend to be asleep when you show up?
hogjowl
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There's a new dealer in Montgomery (that is also a competitor) who acted like I was going to ax murder them when I walked in one day. It was comical.
yeah i looked. nice setup, but not my ideal setup and there were a few things i didnt like.
Brian H
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You also have to take into account the residual value of the system when it's time to sell it.
Captain America
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62 k is a lot to spend?? I am sure that includes the van....so that would be about 35-40 k for the truckmount.
Positives and negatives for a pto!!!!!
Don't know of many around here in texas...guess it is for the vacuum.
still don't think they will give more heat than others, but I could be wrong??
Negatives would be all the hours on the truckmount would add to the miles on the van
200 k miles on a van engine is max.. That's 100 k on the van and 3000 hours on the truckmount
Then it's time for a new engine.
I would rather pay 2500$ for an air cooled engine replace than ????. 5-10 k For a van engine.
Any feedback on my stats wud be appreciated.
Cap
Positives and negatives for a pto!!!!!
Don't know of many around here in texas...guess it is for the vacuum.
still don't think they will give more heat than others, but I could be wrong??
Negatives would be all the hours on the truckmount would add to the miles on the van
200 k miles on a van engine is max.. That's 100 k on the van and 3000 hours on the truckmount
Then it's time for a new engine.
I would rather pay 2500$ for an air cooled engine replace than ????. 5-10 k For a van engine.
Any feedback on my stats wud be appreciated.
Cap
