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Mikey P
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Which is it's higher price?
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Cut the hyperbole please and show why a bigger orbit and motor would make more than just proportional difference?
ruff
Member
This is very disappointing.
The last John G.'s thread garnered more than 10,000 views.
By the way, is it John G. or: G. (as in Gees!) John?
Which is the usual response to the claims being made.
The last John G.'s thread garnered more than 10,000 views.
By the way, is it John G. or: G. (as in Gees!) John?
Which is the usual response to the claims being made.
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MikeysFest 2014 VFW Bar
Many witnessed it.
Post padded it with the V not the t : )
Real world testing.
Lemme see a pad pull Granny fell in the floor an pee'd out.
Go play on That other forum, no one here buys your crap buddy : )
Sent from da parking garage of dee detention center
Known so many big talkers like you C. Lee, however never been impressed when the cleaning started.
the Vario is only a Lowboy with sprayer and wheels, small orbit, old world, an padding and padcapping machine, not even close in results to a Trinity.
I saw the the video and frankly found it a little embarrassing for a padder. What a slow cleaning foamy mess.
You have a LOT to learn, and Lee S. funny thing is, you didn't believe what an OP did until you saw it either, maybe its time you come and see something totally different, then maybe you will be able to understand the differences.
I have done OP for over 40 years, i knew the trinity would be much faster, never dreamed it would do what it does, that is why Trinity users are head over heels with them, and those that haven't tried them, knock them or doubt.
the Vario is only a Lowboy with sprayer and wheels, small orbit, old world, an padding and padcapping machine, not even close in results to a Trinity.
I saw the the video and frankly found it a little embarrassing for a padder. What a slow cleaning foamy mess.
You have a LOT to learn, and Lee S. funny thing is, you didn't believe what an OP did until you saw it either, maybe its time you come and see something totally different, then maybe you will be able to understand the differences.
I have done OP for over 40 years, i knew the trinity would be much faster, never dreamed it would do what it does, that is why Trinity users are head over heels with them, and those that haven't tried them, knock them or doubt.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Answer my question please. ..
Mardie
Member
I thought John explained it very well . It is not about the motor but it sure is nice pushing them kind of amps lol. For you to understand how the different sizes of orbot performs i will give you an example of something you may be able to relate to. Say you got a small sticky piece of jam on a cut pile carpet. Now take a towel and try to wipe it out using the equivalent motion of the small orbot machines. Then try to wipe it out using the larger motion of the Trinity machines. With the larger motion you will actually pull the towel across the fiber and create the desired cleaning action.
J
JS41035
Guest
Or run the wand over it.problem solved.
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Mardie
Member
You are missing the point. It was an explanation as to how the head movement of the different OP machines works.
Mardie
Member
Does not surprise me that you do not have a clue on this subject mr. every method guy. LOL You are starting to sound more like a heckler. Is C.Lee rubbing of on you ?
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Mikey P
Administrator
It grinds the dirt IN quicker.
That's it.
No mystery, no magic, just more hype for the those with no morals.
That's it.
No mystery, no magic, just more hype for the those with no morals.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
Mardie, please share what real world experience you personally have with other OP machines
thanks
..L.T.A.
shadygrady
Member
Well, now eveythings clear as mud! er...I mean jam!
Zee
Supportive Member
How do you know the Orbot so well? Do you have on or used one before? Do you actually have any experience with anything other than VS and John G's "miracle tip bloom fixer"?
Desk Jockey
Member
Mikey P
Administrator
Amusing how a man of faith is using phoney science to falsely help sell his machines.
When scientific "fact" says we evolved, he says hogwash, we came from Adam and Eve. When scientific "fact", says rubbing a Q tip over a chemically laden carpet helps him profit, it's hallelujah!!, look at the Christmas miracle!!
Humans with a moral compass just have to laugh.
And rinse the bullshit away..
When scientific "fact" says we evolved, he says hogwash, we came from Adam and Eve. When scientific "fact", says rubbing a Q tip over a chemically laden carpet helps him profit, it's hallelujah!!, look at the Christmas miracle!!
Humans with a moral compass just have to laugh.
And rinse the bullshit away..
Mardie
Member
Larry before I bought the Trinity Rock I never even seen an OP machine. I researched the OP thing for almost 2 years and new that John had been working on improvements so i waited and watched. There was problems with the first batch of hyper speed OP machines so I waited hoping they would get all the bugs out. Then Bingo everything came together with the new line up of OP machines now called the Trinity. Kinda like being a good hunter Ya wait and watch and when the time Is wright ya make your move. I went with my gut feelings and bought the Rock. Did enough hand towelling to know what toweling does and new that in certain situations that an OP would make my job a lot easier and faster. I would like to ring VSs neck for making me do all that hand towelling. I did not buy it with the intension of using it as much as I am. I loved my cimex but the OP has replaced it on all levels plus it does a whole lot more. This OP machine has far exceeded all my expectations on all levels from ease of handling, quiet smooth running, low chem usage and it is built like a tank but most of all it cleans amazingly well.
The only way I am able to relate to the speed and small head movement of all other OP machines was when I set my machine on speed one which is the equivalent of all other OP machines made. That lasted about 5 min. I was shocked at how slow it was. Seemed like a total waste of time and effort.
Desk Jockey
Member
Mardie you've finally stepped up your cleaning. The 60's said goodbye and the 80's say hello!
Just a few short years ago you thought you knew everything. The VS was the best there was....now it's OP. Amazing what perspective does for you!
I'll give you a few more years and you sir will be a well rounded cleaner once you get your TM.
Just a few short years ago you thought you knew everything. The VS was the best there was....now it's OP. Amazing what perspective does for you!
I'll give you a few more years and you sir will be a well rounded cleaner once you get your TM.
Mardie
Member
Mardie
Member
Mardie you've finally stepped up your cleaning. The 60's said goodbye and the 80's say hello!
Just a few short years ago you thought you knew everything. The VS was the best there was....now it's OP. Amazing what perspective does for you!
I'll give you a few more years and you sir will be a well rounded cleaner once you get your TM.
I have never said or thought the VS is the best nor do I think that about any machine. I have always known it is the combination of man and machine. Sure wish you could go back to my very first thread on MB. BTW I still use the VS when needed
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bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
Mardie...if yor brains were .....dynomite
you could NOT blow yor nose!
you could NOT blow yor nose!
Desk Jockey
Member
I wish anyone could BUT I deleted it just to make you look MORE foolish that you already do.
Sorry!
Mardie
Member
I wish anyone could BUT I deleted it just to make you look MORE foolish that you already do.
Sorry!
Just to refresh my first posts on this board I said that I am not one method minded and would eventually like to own all methods and even hwe. I remember it well.
Desk Jockey
Member
LOL
Smart man......yuck... saying that... tasted like vinegar!
Smart man......yuck... saying that... tasted like vinegar!
Mardie you've finally stepped up your cleaning. The 60's said goodbye and the 80's say hello!
Just a few short years ago you thought you knew everything. The VS was the best there was....now it's OP. Amazing what perspective does for you!
I'll give you a few more years and you sir will be a well rounded cleaner once you get your TM
Being EVERY Monday we interview a businessman that has gone from TM (some over 30 years) to trinities, kinda negates that 80's comment.
Amusing how a man of faith is using phoney science to falsely help sell his machines.
Falsely? And you run this bbs? PHONEY? Ignorance may be bliss, but as a leader in the industry you need to step up your game and get educated.
Humans with a moral compass just have to laugh.
You claim to have one?
When scientific "fact" says we evolved, he says hogwash, we came from Adam and Eve. When scientific "fact", says rubbing a Q tip over a chemically laden carpet helps him profit, it's hallelujah!!, look at the Christmas miracle!!
Fact? Now you are proving your foolishness, you can laugh all you want, but science in on my side, yours is still JUST YOUR UNEDUCATED OPINION.
Just a few short years ago you thought you knew everything. The VS was the best there was....now it's OP. Amazing what perspective does for you!
I'll give you a few more years and you sir will be a well rounded cleaner once you get your TM
Being EVERY Monday we interview a businessman that has gone from TM (some over 30 years) to trinities, kinda negates that 80's comment.
Amusing how a man of faith is using phoney science to falsely help sell his machines.
Falsely? And you run this bbs? PHONEY? Ignorance may be bliss, but as a leader in the industry you need to step up your game and get educated.
Humans with a moral compass just have to laugh.
You claim to have one?
When scientific "fact" says we evolved, he says hogwash, we came from Adam and Eve. When scientific "fact", says rubbing a Q tip over a chemically laden carpet helps him profit, it's hallelujah!!, look at the Christmas miracle!!
Fact? Now you are proving your foolishness, you can laugh all you want, but science in on my side, yours is still JUST YOUR UNEDUCATED OPINION.
Desk Jockey
Member
For each one of those I could give you one that went from OP to a TM. That really proves little.
Besides I'd much rather have options to provide other services that a TM can do and a OP machine cannot (extract water, pressure wash).
But not those who went from Trinity to tm.... that is the point
plus no one has a problem owning ALL pieces of equipment, that is great!
But you have to go past the needs for CLEANING carpets to NEED the tm.
plus no one has a problem owning ALL pieces of equipment, that is great!
But you have to go past the needs for CLEANING carpets to NEED the tm.
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How do you know the Orbot so well?
Maybe it having a 1974 counterbalance of mine on it, might give me a clue.
Do you have on or used one before?
Yes, I have used them, I have used ALL ops with the exception of the Vario, which is a lowboy which I have owned and used. Slow speed, old world.
the ONLY ones who don't get it are those who haven't run it... figures.....
Maybe it having a 1974 counterbalance of mine on it, might give me a clue.
Do you have on or used one before?
Yes, I have used them, I have used ALL ops with the exception of the Vario, which is a lowboy which I have owned and used. Slow speed, old world.
the ONLY ones who don't get it are those who haven't run it... figures.....
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