Cleanworks
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Maybe they'll call it the Ripper.
BONZER IS COMING
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Desk Jockey
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SamIam
Member
Eagerly waiting.... I like new tools introduced.
Hopefully it will gain a bit more acceptance than their "salad bowl" upholstery tool hahahahahahahahaha now that was something to see.I wish I had one for historical reasons.
Brutal!
Mikey P
Administrator
Green Clean LLC
Member
Easy... just angle the head 2.5% so they are not parallel.
ruff
Member
My brother is a patent editor.
It takes a very good professional patent writer to be able to protect a patent very well. You have to think from many different angles on how to block potential copiers, not unlike playing chess.
Most inventors do not want to or do not have the money to spend on a good professional. They may come to regret it later.
Don't know anything about Eric's patent or editor. Hope he's well protected.
It takes a very good professional patent writer to be able to protect a patent very well. You have to think from many different angles on how to block potential copiers, not unlike playing chess.
Most inventors do not want to or do not have the money to spend on a good professional. They may come to regret it later.
Don't know anything about Eric's patent or editor. Hope he's well protected.
Mikey P
Administrator
How long until somebody rips off the Bonzer?
FredC
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I'm sure the rotomolding machines are on standby right now......................just waiting for pics and measurements
ruff
Member
Also, even if something is very well protected, does it generate enough $$$$ to justify the expense of protecting it in court.
And then there's the minor issue of proving damage and............collecting.
Yikes.
I'd think that part of Eric's best protection is the outstanding quality of the Zipper ........ and hopefully the cleaning community's loyalty (or.....are they?)
And then there's the minor issue of proving damage and............collecting.
Yikes.
I'd think that part of Eric's best protection is the outstanding quality of the Zipper ........ and hopefully the cleaning community's loyalty (or.....are they?)
hogjowl
Idiot™
Well, I'M still loyal to Lisa.
Mikey P
Administrator
Not a chance.
IF the Bonzer works anywhere from 80 to 120% as well as the Zipper and retails for $1000 or so less AND the patent does not hold, Erik is fvcked.
Loyalty and money only work together up to about $49.96 with owner operators.
I told Erik to come out with a cheaper option a long time ago before someone else did.
If he's lucky the Bonzer is a Salad Bowl on a stick.
Desk Jockey
Member
The nice thing is the probability is low that this knock off will squirt you in the face while cleaning. Well...maybe ???
FredC
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Mikey P
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I wish I had that when I was cleaning all those Dome Homes in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
ruff
Member
I'm waiting for the "Zonker" and the "Postal".
Can't wait till I can say: I went postal on that carpet.
Can't wait till I can say: I went postal on that carpet.
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
a vacuum head including a vacuum chamber configured to be connected to a vacuum source and two downward facing elongate vacuum ports extending downwardly from the vacuum chamber; and
Erik has a good patent lawyer ready to eat this up, if in fact is in violation.
Many of us will stand behind Erik if this s in fact a shady copy of a great tool.
Erik has a good patent lawyer ready to eat this up, if in fact is in violation.
Many of us will stand behind Erik if this s in fact a shady copy of a great tool.
Desk Jockey
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Green Clean LLC
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Why did the Stryker wand Fail... and Everyone Loves the Zipper?
And doesn't Karcher own the original patent for the Dual Vacuum Port Commercial Extraction Wand?
http://www.windsorkarchergroup.com/ViewCategories.aspx?Pid=133
And doesn't Karcher own the original patent for the Dual Vacuum Port Commercial Extraction Wand?
http://www.windsorkarchergroup.com/ViewCategories.aspx?Pid=133
Zee
Supportive Member
Have you seen a Stryker wand and have you seen a Zipper?
They're not even similar....so I'm not getting the idea why you would compare the two.
Is it just my perverted mind or doesn't that second picture resemble a certain women's body part?
Desk Jockey
Member
I am sooo embarrassed to call you my friend!
Cleanworks
Moderator
It's just your perverted mind.
Old Coastie
Supportive Member
Yeah...
Yup Willie, I think you can safely default to that.
Yup Willie, I think you can safely default to that.
Green Clean LLC
Member
I'm not trying to compare the looks, quality, or style but they function the same.
Although one is classified as a wand and the other as a walk behind.[FONT=arial, sans-serif][/FONT]
From my understanding, the Stryker wand is basically a dual vacuum port design with the solution jets centered in between (fed by one vacuum hose)
same as the zipper, the main difference is the distance between the vacuum ports and the type of jets- if that makes any sense?
My question was,
Why did the Stryker wand Fail... and Everyone Loves the Zipper?
Although one is classified as a wand and the other as a walk behind.[FONT=arial, sans-serif][/FONT]
From my understanding, the Stryker wand is basically a dual vacuum port design with the solution jets centered in between (fed by one vacuum hose)
same as the zipper, the main difference is the distance between the vacuum ports and the type of jets- if that makes any sense?
My question was,
Why did the Stryker wand Fail... and Everyone Loves the Zipper?
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
The market decides.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Metal usually outlasts plastic, or is perceived that way.
The wand trigger was a ball valve.
Wands are ALWAYS a peculiarly personal choice.
The wand trigger was a ball valve.
Wands are ALWAYS a peculiarly personal choice.
My best guess is it was totally different, kinda like the EVO.
Also the spray system was also different than regular jets.
I bet it cleaned fine on higher end type cleaning, but on the whole a lot of us clean some pretty dirty carpet and a lot don't prevac so for the whole it just didn't go over enough to make SS keep going with it.
I bet the AW 29 is the most sold wand because it fits most cleaners, as a whole there is more that just spray and suck, than ones that really care, or I should say that really know.
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Because everyone(for there team) loves home runs and and dislikes strikeouts.
Zipper=home run
Stryker=strike out
Hope this helps.
And yes the Stryker could technically be challenged by the patent but it is a commercial flop so monetarily, it would not make sense to pursue a c&d or a license fee.
hogjowl
Idiot™
I miss the old days.
When jimmy would have hijacked this DAT and made it interesting.
When jimmy would have hijacked this DAT and made it interesting.
GeneMiller
Member
I was able to spend a little time with the Stryker and can tell you why I didn't like it. It grabbed the carpet so hard you could hardly push it. It had a relief but then your bypassing air, which also made it very loud. It tended to hop on poly. It made my arm hurt because of the different type of grip, which didn't go away after having it a week. It didn't have a trigger but just an on off valve. The spray bar shoots straight down causing longer dry times. The knob on the front blistered my baby hands. There were probably a few more things but you get the idea. On the other side I have a friend that loves it.
