hogjowl
Idiot™
How can I be "specific" about wear?
It's either worn, or it isn't.
It's either worn, or it isn't.
All is not lost as Bob Shaw who started Engineered Floors after he sold Shaw IND to Warren Buffett is now the third largest carpet manufacturer. He built his mill using PET and now has reintroduced SD nylon to the market. With oil prices down maybe nylon can make a comeback. All we can do is hope.
James, Could you expound any more on the detergent line of thinking you expressed. I find it interesting.Mikey has asked for my opinion on this fiber.
The biggest complaint I see as an inspector is texture. The warranty defines texture-loss as 'lost of twist' and excludes marks left from vacuuming or other forms of shading. However, when it comes to momentary shading, many Triexta fibers suffer from dramatic changes compared to other fibers. Examples of this would include foot-traffic, but also vacuum marks and well defined marks left from the wheels of the vacuum cleaner. I think this is due to an inherent characteristic of the fiber, but can be aggravated by having a denier that is far lower than other fibers and by a lack of pile density in the making of the carpet. The extreme smoothness of the fiber is likely playing a part in this too. Maintaining its twist has always been a characteristic of the heat setting process and I do not see that problem.
The biggest dilemma for cleaners is Triexta is more oil-loving or oleophilic than Polyester. Polyester's absorption to water is between 0.4% to 0.8%; Triexta's is 0.1% . Fibers are either hydrophilic or oleophilic or somewhere in between. They cannot be both hydrophilic and oleophilic. To the degree that a fiber is hydrophobic or water-hating; it is oil-loving. Thus, it could be said that Triexta is four to eight times the oil magnet than Polyester.
Ten years ago or more, most Polyester carpets had fluorochemical protector that lower the surface tension of all liquids. This meant that this protector made Polyester hydrophobic and oleophobic. When Triexta came out, it had no protection. In many cases, a field application on a Triexta would not last because of its smooth hand. As of December of 2015, the second generation of Triexta has a protectant on it called Nanoloc. Mohawk applies Nanoloc at the factory and has not started selling it to us. As far was I have seen, none of our manufacturer's have claimed to make a protector that sticks to Triexta; although, I am sure that could. Thus, we have never seen a fiber before this that would not respond to some Scotchgard or Teflon.
It is my theory that detergents that have nonionic emulsifiers and lack encapsulants can cause an uncommon resoiling dilemma on Triexta. The reason is the nonionic emulsifiers can absorbed into the fiber. Normally when we get a sticky residue, the villainous surfactant is adsorbed onto the surface of fiber. Most rinsing detergents are designed to deal with adsorbed substances; not absorbed stuff. The solution for this problem has been to enrich the prespray with solvent or do a dry absorption method with a material that is more oleophilic than Triexta. We did such testing a number of years ago, where Bill Yeadon and Larry Cobb were apart of. Mohawk furnishes the soiled samples.
*As a footnote, liquid detergents are generally surfactant base or encapsulants. However, surfactant based detergents contain encapsulants to counteract the stickiness of some surfactants.
Well Lee, I think that someone forgot to tell the carpet manufacturers that the price of oil went down. Of course, I haven't seen a drop in airline fares just a dramatic increase in their profits.Bill Yeadon noted OIL'S price in the price of fibers.
What didn't happen?
Well Lee, I think that someone forgot to tell the carpet manufacturers that the price of oil went down. Of course, I haven't seen a drop in airline fares just a dramatic increase in their profits.
The difference between PET and PTT after it has been in use for a few months is visual. Pop bottle has even poorer resilience and particularly in commercial spec will have traffic lanes that look like they have no nap. You can usually tell Triexta from other polys when cleaning - a more "grabby" fiber so more difficult to push a wand through.What are your experiences in cleaning SmartStrand carpets? Can you tell the difference between PET polyester and Triexta, PTT?
That's gotta be the STUPIDEST video presentation I have ever seen...
So many things wrong with it....forget it...not even wasting my time on it.
But, he wasn't screaming at me in an annoying Michigan accent.
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The other state does have a Grand Rapids too and sometimes my mail ends up there
What's the source of "recycled corn"? What's its first cycle?That's gotta be the STUPIDEST video presentation I have ever seen...
So many things wrong with it....forget it...not even wasting my time on it.
Carpet inspectors actually cleaning carpet? If you cimexed it, there is no point to dry vaccing with a tm. It will dry on it's own in about 2 hours, unless you are over wetting it. Hard to do with a cimexJust had some dialogue with one of the carpet inspectors here. They are cleaning SmartStrand with the following process.
Pre-vac
Encapsulation with Cimex.
Dry vac with truckmount.
This is removing the notorious grey traffic lanes that you get with this stuff, and the dry vac of the excess moisture prevents wicking.
Quite a counter-intuitive process really. The mob that are selling this stuff here in Aust are still insisting you clean it with water ONLY.... which makes an explanation to the customer somewhat difficult when the retailer is making these claims.
Anyway..
Phil M.
Carpet inspectors actually cleaning carpet? If you cimexed it, there is no point to dry vaccing with a tm. It will dry on it's own in about 2 hours, unless you are over wetting it. Hard to do with a cimex
So what over the counter prespray should we use? What brand?