Help from Vortex owners

[hogjowl]

I need to see if any of you guys can help me figure out what may have gone wrong with my V today.

While cleaning this morning, my V suddenly shut down. Like the waste tank was full. It scared me pretty badly because I heard a loud metalic sound and ran outside to find the unit shut down but the engine racing. After thinking about it all day (while trying to repair it), I sorta figure that sound, and the racing engine is normal when the unit itself shuts down suddenly.

Any way, nothing seems to check out as being wrong. Aerotec, and Jim Martin, both seem to think the solenoid on the pto is bad, but the way Aerotec had me bypass it, didn't solve the problem. Jim has described another way for me to do it, and I will try it in the morning. However, I looking for some brain storming to help me try and determine what it could be. Any ideas?

BTW, it's not the blower belts, the blower, or the pto. Those have already been ruled out earlier today.

 

[Rambo]

Sir Loin of Pork, don't sell your TCS unit..............................................Yet

 

[The Magician]

Porky call Adam at V. Post some pics of that new machine.

 

[Cameron1]

Damn,
the busiest time of the year to.

 

[Jimbo]

Could the waste tank shutoff switch be the problem? Or the wiring going to it?

Hopefully it's simply and you'll be back in cleaning form soon!

 

[Jim Martin]

Jimbo had a good point but you should get a red light letting you know your float came up....( full, tank.).empty tank and make sure all floats are down...the top one may have gotten pulled up...and the light may be out....un plug them and put a jumper in the connector

 

[Guest]

follow the wires to the shut off float valve to make sure they didnt rub on something and become bare . I had that happen to me and it shut mine down. ( I had placed a powerstretcher in the area and it rubbed the wires and grounded out.

 

[Jim Martin]

Jimbo had a good point but you should get a red light letting you know your float came up....( full, tank.).empty tank and make sure all floats are down...the top one may have gotten pulled up...and the light may be out....un plug them and put a jumper in the connector

hang on..doesn't that float just kill the pump not the entire machine ....?

 

[hogjowl]

The shut off switch was the first thing I checked. I pulled the wires and bypassed the switch. Got the red light on the panel, but didn't crank.

 

[Guest]

mine has fuses to the shut off on the panel - but I bet ya checked those already .

 

[TimP]

Float in the waste tank turns the machine off not the pump. At least with mine. The pump gets cut off on mine when you run out of water.

Of course I don't own a vortex.

 

[hogjowl]

Checked the fuse; it was good. I have lights on the panel when I pull the Power Button.

 

[Mikey P]

I'm betting your high water float/wiring went bad like Cooper said.

 

[adamh]

Call Chuck at BLUEline 928-445-3030

 

[hogjowl]

And I'm betting you didn't see my answer above explaining that I had already bypassed that shut off switch and it didn't solve the problem.

 

[Chris Muetterties]

What about your low water float in the fresh water tank ?

 

[steve frasier]

I would try to help but you won't say what machine you have so any advise I give would only help if it was a newer model

I would call Chuck also, lots of info in that guys brain, he would probably answer his phone if you called him

 

[Larry B]

2 weeks ago couldnt put in a 12v plug & now Mikeys board has you rewiring a V





Good job Mikeys board

 

[Jim Martin]

What about your low water float in the fresh water tank ?

that just kills the cat pump.....
IMO after talking to him and going over it....

it is either the PTO solenoid or a wiring problem from the start switch to the solenoid....
could be something as simple as a bad ground....

next time they build one of these I would hope that they are smart enough to put a central ground block somewhere instead of running a screw into the frame at the first place they find...if a ground goes bad then it is a pain to find sometimes.............

 

[ronbeatty]

Check the throttle control connector along the frame rail, right behind the cab. I had trouble with this connector. Pull it apart and spray it with WD40 or some type of electronic moisture remover. There is a moisture seal in that fitting that is not very good. I finally just cut the connector out and crimped the wires together. Hope this helps. Ron

 

[hogjowl]

That could possibly be the problem, Ron. I don't have a float in my fresh water tank and I've over-filled my tank several times. If flows right out the top and right over that cable.

 

[Mikey P]

There you go!

 

[hogjowl]

Hopefully, but would moisture on the throttle connector cause the unit to shut down, or just cause the throttle to throttle down?

 

[Jim Martin]

he has the manual cable....... that hooks to the throttle linkage on the UD

 

[hogjowl]

The two areas of focus from Aerotec's perspective have been the PTO solenoid and the throttle switch which is located under the cab. I suspect what I will end up having to do is have them overnight them to me and replace them both.

Or, drive 3 hours to my nearest Blue Line Dist.

Actually, there's one in Pelham, Alabama, which is only an hour away, but nobody's ever heard of the dude and I have no idea if he's ever actually sold and installed ANY of their TM's, much less had any experience with a Vortex.

 

[Bob Foster]

http://www.vortexinfo.com/TechnicalSupp ... fault.aspx

 

[TimP]

Looks like this is the chart you need to follow....bob in the right direction me thinks

http://www.vortexinfo.com/Portals/0/Tec ... OChart.jpg

 

[hogjowl]

Good grief Terry. First you misquote me as saying I would never purchase anything I couldn't have serviced locally, which is wrong, and now you're taking something I HAVE said, from day one, and turning it into some kind of gotcha issue.

I have alway told people not to purchase any TM that they couldn't have serviced locally, unless they have no local dist., or their local dist. provides a sub quality TM, or service. In my case, there IS NO LOCAL supply option.

From day one, I have said that my V purchase was subject to be sold. I bought it because I wanted to SEE if it would fit in my busines, but if it doesn't fit well, then I said I believed I could always sell it. No sense in me NOT trying to best TM in the industry.

 

[hogjowl]

This is my last reply to you on this thread.

I need to keep it focused on the topic at hand.

 

[Chris Muetterties]

Whats a "CRAFT" ?