Russ T.
Supportive Member
What the hack is a #3 blower EZ?
which truckmount do you want Marty to buy next?
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Desk Jockey
Member
uhh huh
knoxclean
Supportive Member
Jim Martin
Supportive Member
I would hook him up with the exact same set up I have with my 570...throw in a 13 inch zipper and we would never here another word out of him........
Russ T.
Supportive Member
What about the pork holes?!?!
hogjowl
Idiot™
TCS can only be as good as what they have to work with, which may be sufficient in regards to the 1200, but it's too early in it's existence to tell. Unfortunately, it takes time to become a proven machine in this industry, and we've all seen the unfortunate tendency our mfgs have of using us to test and tweek their new designs. I'm not a very appreciative research subject. And yes this is a new design. You current 1200 owners have a different machine.
Cleanco is a serious contender. It's sold and installed by TCS, and they tell me the support the receive from Cleanco is good. It's a proven machine. I know the occasional issue will be quickly handled by good people. I just don't know if I can go back to 6 flow in order to keep high heat. That's the only issue with Cleanco. However, Cleanco gives us space for storage which is increasingly important.
Space, or the lack thereof, is the only negative issue with Butler. Talk about a proven machine? I don't think there's a single machine that has built more trust with end users than Butler! I think I can be fairly trusting in the assurances I have been given by some Butler owners that it will deliver high heat at high flow. (I hope.)
So, it comes down to Butler or Cleanco. (Both offer pork holes.) So, do I want space or heat?
Cleanco is a serious contender. It's sold and installed by TCS, and they tell me the support the receive from Cleanco is good. It's a proven machine. I know the occasional issue will be quickly handled by good people. I just don't know if I can go back to 6 flow in order to keep high heat. That's the only issue with Cleanco. However, Cleanco gives us space for storage which is increasingly important.
Space, or the lack thereof, is the only negative issue with Butler. Talk about a proven machine? I don't think there's a single machine that has built more trust with end users than Butler! I think I can be fairly trusting in the assurances I have been given by some Butler owners that it will deliver high heat at high flow. (I hope.)
So, it comes down to Butler or Cleanco. (Both offer pork holes.) So, do I want space or heat?
Steve Lawrence
Member
Gobs of heat with Butler Hi Heat. You probably won't be disappointed.
Mikey P
Administrator
I should have included Cleanco, regrettably..
Russ T.
Supportive Member
Marty is looking at the right 2 for him. As snarky and cantankerous as he is, I hope the next machine will do well for him.
Nate The Great
Member
Does Cleanco offer a higher heat option for those who aren't a regular flow cleaner? If not, this was more a debate of a machine with "high heat" option.... He currently has a #4 LG heater, so which ever is his next machine better be equivalent in regards to heat.... Or everyone including the manufacture will here bitching about it.....(Of course after the "honey Moon" stage is over)
hogjowl
Idiot™
Cleanco offers a high heat option, but it's fairly clear it's not a high flow unit.
J
JS41035
Guest
I don't really believe there's that much of a difference between all the direct drive units as far as heat. I think the newer GM vans run hotter than the older GM engines. My 08 runs at 215. The 99 at 195.
The Cleanco offers a really cool option that preheats the freshwater while you drive. They are the only DD ones that do that.
The higher engine operating temps are (IMHO) why the direct drives are able to handle more flow at high temp.
But why not start off with a tank of 175 degree freshwater? A cat pump with high temp seals won't have a problem. Aero tech does it.
The Cleanco offers a really cool option that preheats the freshwater while you drive. They are the only DD ones that do that.
The higher engine operating temps are (IMHO) why the direct drives are able to handle more flow at high temp.
But why not start off with a tank of 175 degree freshwater? A cat pump with high temp seals won't have a problem. Aero tech does it.
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Russ T.
Supportive Member
That sounds pretty awesome.i think I remember Justin mention it last year at MF10.
I wish someone from Cleanco would engage with us...
J
JS41035
Guest
I actually didn't see it on Cleancos site.
But it's here on Sunbelts page
http://www.sun-beltusa.com/compact-56-direct-drive.html
Pre heat recirculate system
J
JS41035
Guest
Even leasing it for almost seven years and with a pretty high residual the aerotech is still way more than a Butler. Honestly the finance options on an Aerotech aren't nearly as good as Butler. A Butler depending on options is about 1100 for 5 years. Even at 3% interest you couldn't hardly keep an Aerotech under 2000 a month. I'm not saying they aren't worth it. But 2000 a month could get away from you if your not careful.
Mikey P
Administrator
I know of shops that gross less than we do that pay 5K a month in rent...
Mikey P
Administrator
Has Marty picked his Krylon yet?
ruff
Member
I found Marty's new rig:
Hey, big boy, do I get a finder's fee?
Hey, big boy, do I get a finder's fee?
Zee
Supportive Member
That qualifies as a "truckmounted" unit. A handtruck.
Almost as good as my Dwell pro.
Almost as good as my Dwell pro.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Throw in one of Brokums wand handles and its a deal.
ruff
Member
Talk with Phred, he may even throw Dave in 
Danny Strickland
Member
hogjowl
Idiot™
Tell me what you know of Jon-Don Atlanta, danny. Have you any personal experience with their service? Their mechanic? Do you know anyone who has? Have you seen them mentioned here or on any FB posts? (Please don't extrapolate any info on other Jon-Don locations over to JD Atlanta.)
Danny Strickland
Member
none. other than they are in your comfort zone for driving? sounds like you have an issue or know of one???
Desk Jockey
Member
He ate at the Waffle House and it screwed up his insides. Now he's taking it out on us. 
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ruff
Member
I thought he just waffled about carpet cleaning issues.
I never new he was so literal.
I never new he was so literal.
Spurlington
Member
I wonder how a Cleanco with a 30-40HP Kohler between the seats would work out?
