Asking for a friend. 60,000 sf commercial job.

[Travis Sonderegger]

Had a friend call me saying he just scored a commercial job. He is the mechanic for the crew and he tries to help out where he can. He said they scored a 60,000 sf commercial job and wants to know what would be the best way to clean that? I told him to get a cimex. I dont even know what they do. I just have seen them talked about here and there. Anyone care to enlighten me about a cimex and share other thoughts as to how to handle a job like this, what equipment one might use and what the job is worth? Its up in utah near salt lake somewhere up north there.

Thanks in Advance!

Travis Sonderegger

 

[Mikey P]

What type of carpet
What type of soil
What type of traffic
What frequency of cleaning?

Need to know those answers to give a legit answer

 

[Desk Jockey]

We have 8-Cimex's and I think that will probably be your best approach. You may need to compliment that with HWE in entry ways and maybe OP tracked up funnel areas. Touch up and spill maintenance.

Low purchase cost, easy to operate, high production and can be operated securely.

 

[Nate The Great]

We have 8-Cimex's and I think that will probably be your best approach. You may need to compliment that with HWE in entry ways and maybe OP tracked up funnel areas. Touch up and spill maintenance.

Low purchase cost, easy to operate, high production and can be operated securely.

Spoken like a white Mexican....

 

[Desk Jockey]

It's winter here, little sun. Wait until Summer and I brown up.

 

[Steve Lawrence]

If using Cimex encapsulation I'd recommend explaining the process to the hirer and give a sample to show that it is a bona fide method. You don't want problems further down the road when it may be discovered that the customer is doing the majority of soil removal after you're done. You can downplay that fact in your presentation but it's still a good idea to tell the truth about your system. BTW, I also think the Cimex is your best AND most economical approach to a job this size. The carpets will stay cleaner looking, longer in my experience.

 

[Russ T.]

I cleaned 40k ft.² of carpet twice, at a big church we used to attend.

First time was with a small Truckmount. The next time I bought a Cimex.

The Cimex made the job quicker, easier, AND look better!

I used my truck for stairs on both occasions.

 

[Travis Sonderegger]

it is a optometry complex light soil the building is a few years old and it is currently being cleaned quarterly
it is carpet tile and regular commercial carpet.

 

[Russ T.]

Cimex, Travis.

Tough to beat the deal Excellent Supply will give you.

Use the tan pads and any number of "good" encap juices.

 

[Jimmy L]

What you do is truckmount the areas 50 feet into the building for "Show" and do the back areas with cimex/bonnetcleaning/op . I would never explain what method I use as long as it looks good.
To explain in detail to them what scampooing is and isn't is a sort of defensive position. They will think they are getting screwed. "Yeah we scrub this encap solution in and it will encapsulate the dirt and it will vacuum out" Yeah right!

We all know the initial prevac that removes 75 % of the dry soil is the only cleaning done with encapsulation.
The rest is merely a appearance management process.

 

[mirf]

Wand entrances as needed. then Cimex everything. Less chance of wicking back.
Buy a good endcap product. We like Magic Wand Atomic. Excellent has DS2 which is very good too.

 

[Shane Deubell]

First service would prefer to scrub and HWE the whole thing. After that what jimmy said, HWE high traffic areas and encap lighter areas.

 

[Desk Jockey]

6 hours cleaning time, 4-Cimex’s averaging 2,500 sq/ft an hour (10,000 sq/ft an hour )
6-man crew, 4-operators and 2-helpers to feed the machines.
Plan for an 8-hour day just to be sure.

When we do large projects like this we use 5-gallon water jugs and take carts to deliver the solution to the operators instead of carrying the water. Its much easier on the tech’s.

We bring in a couple of water jugs already filled for each machine, so the crew can get a jump start and are not waiting around to get solution to begin cleaning.

A general purpose spotter in a squirt bottle and a bottle of encap solvent spotter are also good items for each operator to have handy.

Don’t forget to have some slip/fall hazard signs printed off to tape up warning about slippery transition areas. As well as take a handful of towels to wipe down those areas.
We also take a cooler with water and Gatorade for breaks and buy lunch so they don’t need to leave the facility.

 

[Steve Lawrence]

Great thread, thanks everyone!!!!

 

[NobleCarpetCleaners]

60k sq/ft and he wants input on the "best" way to proceed? causssssssse he doesn't know?

 

[Desk Jockey]

You get above 30k and a lot of cleaners shit themselves. It's more than they clean in a month and truly don't know how best to approach it.

Do you do it in one day, over several nights or over a month of Saturday's? HWE it all? Do you have enough hose for extended runs? What about security at entry points? Water supply, dump site? Lots of unknowns if you don't have much commercial experience.