Carpet tile edge damaged from 175

[Mikey P]

Pay no attention to the yellow/brownish pattern, that's actually supposed to be like that.

Last guy used a 175, not sure what pad or bonnet but obviously not enough juice, except where he used too much solvent and created the bubbles..

 

[steve_64]

Fix those seams with a lighter.

You sure the last guy didn't use an RE?

 

[Jimmy L]

Can't always blame it on the guy who used a 175.
Installer and foot traffic , moving chairs , tables etc could be the blame too.

 

[Mark Saiger]

That's from a 175....

I know it...because this is in my town...and that is what I showed up to today to take a look at...

He was Doing encap....not enough juice...used something incorrect...

He has the account because this place owned by the city...so since doing janitorial for the city...he had the gig....

And we held one of our Daughters weddings there a year ago...and the carpets did not look like that until this past time he did them...

Told them...I can clean it...but not going to spend a bunch of days trying to clip off the problem fraying spots...

We are going to get a chance at this place because the Golf Pro of the clubhouse...we just cleaned his carpets again at home...and the guys did such a great job....he called and scheduled to do the rest of his home this week....

We will see from there...but the pics here might give an idea to the condition of the carpets before the last cleaning....and the wrinkles in the carpet were not present until the cleaning....

 

[steve_64]

It looks cleaner now. Seriously, get a trigger propane torch and just singe the fraying. It takes seconds and keeps it from getting new frays. I do it all the time with a lighter.

He must have really healed that buffer to cause that kind of stretching and probably delamination. Can you just replace the tiles that are bad?

 

[Mark Saiger]

It looks cleaner now. Seriously, get a trigger propane torch and just singe the fraying. It takes seconds and keeps it from getting new frays. I do it all the time with a lighter.

He must have really healed that buffer to cause that kind of stretching and probably delamination. Can you just replace the tiles that are bad?

Every tile seriously is now bad....

it is close to 2000 sq feet...

Replacement the only fix now....

 

[Harry Myers]

Depends on the construction is it an action bac. Pvc back is it a felt back. The best construction on tiles is pvc it is fusion bonded meaning less fraying. Unlike the cheaper action bac carpet we see everywhere.

 

[ronbeatty]

I wouldn't clip any of the edges of the carpet tile, they are usually stitched through the back of the primary back.

 

[Jimmy L]

I suppose a cimex would have done the same thing.
Probably why they don't want anything rotary planetary anything used

 

[ruff]

Why would the 175 cause that?
Are these fraying edges that were there to begin with and were just pulled out? Or was it caused by it?

My concern with carpeted tiles is that the water will get in between (the "seam") and cause a problem.

 

[Desk Jockey]

An OP machine will do more damage than that. I've never had a Cimex do it but we've done it to our own carpet here in the office a few years ago. It wasn't chemical, it was aggressive action from the pads.

 

[Cleanworks]

An OP machine will do more damage than that. I've never had a Cimex do it but we've done it to our own carpet here in the office a few years ago. It wasn't chemical, it was aggressive action from the pads.

You always need good lubrication. I cringe when I see people encapping, then going back over the area with dry absorbent pads. Either encap with synthetic or absorbent in my opinion, not both.

 

[Desk Jockey]

We don't use OP on carpet tiles anymore. I believe its too aggressive on the edge and causes fraying. Lubricated pad or not, its too risky.

So far that hasn't been the case with the Cimex. I believe the planetary action is actually less aggressive to the edge. ???

 

[Old Coastie]

We don't use OP on carpet tiles anymore. I believe its too aggressive on the edge and causes fraying. Lubricated pad or not, its too risky.

So far that hasn't been the case with the Cimex. I believe the planetary action is actually less aggressive to the edge. ???

Stands to reason, the little pads would not have as long a sustained pull from any edge inward, as the 175 bonnet would do.

 

[ruff]

What about hot water extraction?
Is there potential damage by water getting between the tiles?

 

[Desk Jockey]

I don't believe so. Hopefully not.

Many of those tiles have a vinyl back, even those with dense fiber back might make for difficult evaporation.

 

[Danbo]

Haven't seen that before. Done many carpet tiles with a 175 over the years without incident. Something wasn't done right or something wrong with installation...?

 

[Jimmy L]

Done many with my 300 buffer and tuways. But I use a 100 psi sprayer to lay my juice down with a wet pad.

 

[jcooper]

That's some ugly carpet!

 

[Nate The Great]

Honestly, that's not that bad... I've had to shear carpet tiles on new installation with sprouting tuffs.. A shearing machine set at the right height can and will fix the issue.. We fix manufacturing issues, and some installation issues as well...

I guess it's possible for a bonnet cleaner to do that but I'd also get an inspector to look at it or see if there's replacement tiles available to look over.. The bubble could be from a lot of possibilities also...

And I agree with @jcooper the person who picked that carpet should be taken out back and shot....

 

[Desk Jockey]

They came out inspected ours and sheared it for free. That was several years ago and so far the Cimex has not created the same problem.

We did use the Vibe on it last Saturday with no apparent fuzzing of the edges. But we won't OP it regularly.

 

[Nate The Great]

To the untrained eye, it's possible to not see the inherent problem till you start cleaning it.. If every tile has the problem, I'd think it's a manufacturing problem over a cleaning problem... IMHO

 

[Desk Jockey]

Quit making fun of my eyes!

 

[Nate The Great]

I ever tell you the story of a cock-eyed girl I went out with?

I broke up with her because she was seeing someone on the side....!

 

[Lyman]

On saturday i cleaned 1600 sg ft that looked exactly like that picture. Every tile edge was frayed. I cleaned it in the fall, only presprayed and zippered. it was only two months old. Owner said it must me the ski boots. This was a bar area of a ski resort.

 

[Nate The Great]

If it were the boots, it shouldn't have been limited to just the edges... Things that make you go hmmm..... Still new enough to open a claim with the flooring store or manufacturer given that it was "properly" installed...

 

[Nomad74]

watching

 

[Mikey P]

Mark went and looked at it today

Turns out it was a dude and an OP machine doing all 200 ft for $175 including tax so .8 a foot.

 

[Mikey P]

Wanna bet Goober was using a bristle type pad driver and worn out cotton pads?

 

[Mark Saiger]

2000 Sq ft for $175 including tax...

Have to move a ton of tables and chairs...

Cleaned once a month... But it gets dirty right away I was told...

It's loaded with soils now... Built in 2010 and always OP cleaned... Told them it needs a good flushing right now and the carpets are mess of damaged...