Those new Mid Mount tanks certainly open things up
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Bruce Humphrey
Member
That's the extended van , I still have more room in my new Butler then I did in my old van.
Cleanworks
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I don't care for the boxes on the rear doors. Often, you are loading your van to the gills and those boxes would prevent you from closing the doors. Otherwise, it looks great. These days, carpet cleaners are carrying a lot more gear in the past. Vacuums, crb's, 175's, etc.
ruff
Member
I have the exact butler. The mid-mount help. Without it I would not have bought a butler. With my extended I have about the same storage as a CDS or Pro-1200 in a regular van without the fresh water tank.
Agree with Ron about these boxes.
I do not like Butler's shelves (too much for carrying water damage equip and still wasted space.) Opted for two Adrienne Steel shelves that have adjustable shelving and better use of space.
P.S. Wide angle lenses tend to make spaces look....... well.............. a lot more spacious then they really are. When you sell your old home and look at the realtor's pictures of it, you'd think that place must have been a lot more spacious then I remember
Agree with Ron about these boxes.
I do not like Butler's shelves (too much for carrying water damage equip and still wasted space.) Opted for two Adrienne Steel shelves that have adjustable shelving and better use of space.
P.S. Wide angle lenses tend to make spaces look....... well.............. a lot more spacious then they really are. When you sell your old home and look at the realtor's pictures of it, you'd think that place must have been a lot more spacious then I remember
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Larry Cobb
Member
I agree . . .
Those door hinges will also sag & wear prematurely from the extra weight in those shelves
I think vac power is also lost from the live vac reel.
I do like the tanks.
P.S. We've always used mid-mounted dual tanks on our TM.
ruff
Member
I think many people (me included) do not use their live reel.
Bob Pruitt
Member
The Butler wet suit neoprene insulation turned out to be a good investment here. Really keeps the van cool in Summer. Able to keep doors closed and use port holes. The boxes on the back are designed for pump sprayers and foam blocks. The door hinges can easily handle that small additional weight. Lol. I agree that 1 of those would be enough.
Larry Cobb
Member
Bob, Techs will have 50 or 60 lbs. in them,
without daily supervision.
without daily supervision.
Mikey P
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Dolly Llama
Number 5
ruff
Member
Not so concerned about the hinges.
However the boxes are attached to the black plastic cover of the back door, which is only clipped onto it.
If you only have tabs and foam blocks etc. that ok, even though an accidental yank or shove (ask Damon) can pull it out and the larger the box, the more leverage.
However the boxes are attached to the black plastic cover of the back door, which is only clipped onto it.
If you only have tabs and foam blocks etc. that ok, even though an accidental yank or shove (ask Damon) can pull it out and the larger the box, the more leverage.
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Sierra Clean Care
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Now that I have the one tonne extended Cleanco , I will never go back..... there’s even enough room for me to put the snow blower in the back. I took it to the shop, as the guy who does the plowing for me ended up in the hospital with pneumonia..... I was to lazy to pull the toneau off my truck.... I love the Cleanco...... reliable, so simple to operate a monkey could do it, and TONNES of room....
Shane T
Member
I have had GM vans with heavily loaded rear doors for 30+ years, never had a hinge failure yet.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Well, Marty does it.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Yeah that sounds like one of those problems that "everybody" has, but no one knows anyone that actually does
hogjowl
Idiot™
hogjowl
Idiot™
They’ve stopped sending new service bulletins?
Yes thank God
Pioneer Floorcare
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FB7777
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Failed Gm hinges
Has anyone seen Larry Cobb's lips move when he talks?
Seems like most of the time he's speaking through his ass
Has anyone seen Larry Cobb's lips move when he talks?
Seems like most of the time he's speaking through his ass
Mikey P
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Pioneer Floorcare
Member
Yes, 90%
The Great Oz
Member
The newer the van, the thinner the metal in the doors. The inner metal of the back doors of our newest GMCs could be twisted into a pretzel with your hands, and the plastic is as brittle as Styrene.
We use the delete option to skip getting the inner plastic, then cover the door openings with Seaboard (HDPE plastic) sheet screwed to any metal we can find in the doors. We mount the door shelves to the Seaboard. Probably makes the whole door more solid.
If someone is having problems with a GM door hinge, it's probably due to the sheet metal tearing where the hinges are attached rather than the hinge failing.
We use the delete option to skip getting the inner plastic, then cover the door openings with Seaboard (HDPE plastic) sheet screwed to any metal we can find in the doors. We mount the door shelves to the Seaboard. Probably makes the whole door more solid.
If someone is having problems with a GM door hinge, it's probably due to the sheet metal tearing where the hinges are attached rather than the hinge failing.
Desk Jockey
Member
Same orifice
Sierra Clean Care
Member
I’ve had an uncle (passed away in July/15) that was a mining engineer. Suit and tie guy/ round table type. He worked in the US, Can.,Europe, South America. He rubbed shoulders with some very powerful people. Anywho, he hung around with the same level of people. He knew designers/ engineers from multiple industries. Guys are told to design cars, washers/dryers, tv’s etc, to only last 3-7 years, depending on the industry. I guess this explains why EVERYTHING these days are built like shyte, UNLESS, we pay 3-5 times the market value from some boutique vendors..... food for thought.....
Newman
Member
That new Butler is the sweet setup!
1996 and up GM vans have an issue with the cargo side door hinges. Typically experienced with passenger vans in Northern climates where the side doors are rarely used. The hinges are exposed to the elements and the steel hinge pins rust, expand, and seize up.
1996 and up GM vans have an issue with the cargo side door hinges. Typically experienced with passenger vans in Northern climates where the side doors are rarely used. The hinges are exposed to the elements and the steel hinge pins rust, expand, and seize up.
