Which rinse?

[Meter Maid]

They're pretty cheap so I like using one.

Anybody use EndZone and CTI Last Step? Which one did better for you?

 

[DAT]

All fiber rinse and deep rinse version, flex ice, dry slurry. I have use procyon sample as a rinse too. Works good too.


I haven't used the two chems you've stated. I have heard good things about them.

 

[hogjowl]

There’s no way to tell if a rinse even works.
Much less if one is better than the other.
Idiots

 

[Hack Attack]

but it's mucho betterer..

they're all rinses, they do what they say, and they're cheap

It's on the trashed ones I see a difference, but only you will know if your using it or not

 

[Trip Moses]

water softener makes the most difference.

 

[Cleanworks]

Procyon Plus powder is my regular rinse. No foam, no sticky residue.

 

[hogjowl]

I rest my case

 

[Meter Maid]

You should rest your eyes now.

 

[SamIam]

They're pretty cheap so I like using one.

Anybody use EndZone and CTI Last Step? Which one did better for you?

I like last step leaves carpet noticeably softer

never used end zone

 

[sassyotto]

We used to use rinses. But only do high end residential. We switched to water only (water softener) about 20 years ago. We found that when we went back on the next cleaning, the carpet was cleaner and easier to clean than previous cleanings where we used a rinse.

 

[Meter Maid]

We used to use rinses. But only do high end residential. We switched to water only (water softener) about 20 years ago. We found that when we went back on the next cleaning, the carpet was cleaner and easier to clean than previous cleanings where we used a rinse.

You think maybe the rinses have improved in the last 20 years though?

 

[BIG WOOD]

There’s no way to tell if a rinse even works.
Much less if one is better than the other.
Idiots

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.

 

[Hack Attack]

on a trashed one, prespray with just water feeding your hydroforce

then go out and turn your rinse on and start wanding, it will depend on your water quality or soil types but you will probably see where the rinse has kicked in

 

[DAT]

There’s no way to tell if a rinse even works.
Much less if one is better than the other.
Idiots

It does... When i do trash carpet, it makes it go so much quicker as opposed to using just water...even better with dry slurry.. I would think that using TM heat and high flow with rinse agent makes it even better.

 

[sassyotto]

on a trashed one, prespray with just water feeding your hydroforce

then go out and turn your rinse on and start wanding,

for a true test, you need to prespray with water and then wand with water and wand with rinse to see if there is a difference. You would be surprised how much dirt just wanding with hot water will remove.

but the point is, if the CLEANING part of the process is effective enough, the rinsing process shouldnt make it CLEANER. Getting the carpet CLEANER is not the purpose of a rinse agent.

But just to make sure I will have to go back and check my IICRC manual.......

 

[Hack Attack]

I think you can get the same results with water it just takes more rinsing

imo its more a timesaver, but only on the trashed

 

[Mikey P]

It does... When i do trash carpet, it makes it go so much quicker as opposed to using just water...even better with dry slurry.. I would think that using TM heat and high flow with rinse agent makes it even better.

I would think there woth a portable a rinse is far more important to make up for the lack of everything

 

[Cleanworks]

for a true test, you need to prespray with water and then wand with water and wand with rinse to see if there is a difference. You would be surprised how much dirt just wanding with hot water will remove.

but the point is, if the CLEANING part of the process is effective enough, the rinsing process shouldnt make it CLEANER. Getting the carpet CLEANER is not the purpose of a rinse agent.

But just to make sure I will have to go back and check my IICRC manual.......

It's probably wrong to call it a rinse. When I started in hwe, we didn't have presprays. We used an emulsifier metered through the truck or portable. On really dirty carpets we would crank it up. Left a lot of residue behind. When presprays became popular, we had to learn to adjust our emulsifier to match otherwise, we would end up with a soapy mess. I use a heavy presprays most times followed by a finely diluted alkaline emulsifier that dries to a crystal. I have found it cleans better than just water and removes more prespray than just water. I am always open to new ideas but that's where i an after almost 40 years in this industry.

 

[DAT]

One time to test the effectiveness of dry slurry, i used half the amount saiger with booster as prespray on trashed

I would think there woth a portable a rinse is far more important to make up for the lack of everything

I wouldn't say everything...it does the job well. Just slower.

 

[Mikey P]

Not really...

What happened to that hydramaster?

 

[DAT]

Not really...

What happened to that hydramaster?

......im working on it....... Totally my fault.

 

[Loren Egland]

It's probably wrong to call it a rinse. When I started in hwe, we didn't have presprays. We used an emulsifier metered through the truck or portable. On really dirty carpets we would crank it up. Left a lot of residue behind. When presprays became popular, we had to learn to adjust our emulsifier to match otherwise, we would end up with a soapy mess. I use a heavy presprays most times followed by a finely diluted alkaline emulsifier that dries to a crystal. I have found it cleans better than just water and removes more prespray than just water. I am always open to new ideas but that's where i an after almost 40 years in this industry.

I have a similar experience. In 1970 I just used a carpet extraction chemical through the equipment. No pre-spray. These pictures are the results.

 

[DAT]

I have a similar experience. In 1970 I just used a carpet extraction chemical through the equipment. No pre-spray. These pictures are the results.

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Then it got brown again?

 

[BIG WOOD]

I have a similar experience. In 1970 I just used a carpet extraction chemical through the equipment. No pre-spray. These pictures are the results.

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I'm really surprised you're able to clean after using that wand in the pictures 49 years ago. Hats off to you Loren

 

[Dolly Llama]

They're pretty cheap so I like using one.

don't overthink it, Chris.
If you're using quality pre-sprays, a little alkaline emulsifier in the stock tank is all you need .
Like Prochem Dry Slurry (one of the best)

IF using quality pre-spray, you only need 1/3 to 1/2 of what's suggested to rinse with.
and that is mostly to condition the water that aids in rinsing

I'm really surprised you're able to clean after using that wand in the pictures 49 years ago. Hats off to you Loren

that Steamway flood jet wand had some warts, (jet distortion on some cut piles) but it was a flush monster that carried heat to the fiber better than any wand on the market

and really wasn't a "man killer" to push like an unglided Ti


..L.T.A.

 

[Nomad74]

Rinse shouldn’t be thought of as a “Cleaner”. Rinse is a conditioner.

 

[Meter Maid]

So can a good rents actually help with wicking and re-soiling as advertised or is that fake news?

Endzone and some others have a polymer which is said to help.

 

[Cleanworks]

So can a good rents actually help with wicking and re-soiling as advertised or is that fake news?

Endzone and some others have a polymer which is said to help.

Wicking is caused by leaving the carpet too wet or not completely removing stains that may be imbedded in the pad. Resoiling is caused by leaving too much soap residue in the carpet.

 

[Loren Egland]

Here are a couple pictures of using a carpet extraction chemical through a portable without any prespray.

 

[steve_64]

I turned my rinse on halfway through rugs and saw a noticeable difference in the colors. Tried it on several carpets too but it was mixed results.

It makes colors pop and brightens traffic lanes just a little more.

Prochem all fiber rinse is what I use now.