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Didn't know there was a huge market for carpet dying.

I will look into it!

Yee Haaaaa!
 
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A few thoughts:

Nylon and wool seem to be the fibers most likely to experience color loss (I've seen some weird issues on some polys, but these are very rare). Is the market that big with a shrinking nylon/wool carpet market?

I do think the ability to do color repair on area rugs could be helpful, but I'm not sure I could build a business around dyeing wall to wall carpet.
 

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This brought back some memories.

Does anyone remember a company named: PROTONE ?

If I remember correctly, they were based in Georgia near the carpet mills. They were quite large; did carpet dying training on location. I had the opportunity of visiting their headquarters because we had made them a special system at the time.
Anyways, as large and as fast as they grew the business, suddenly it closed its doors! Their operators incurred problems (as Jim P mentioned) and those situations eventually became liabilities. Thus I believe the losses began to grow as fast.
 

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A few thoughts:

Nylon and wool seem to be the fibers most likely to experience color loss (I've seen some weird issues on some polys, but these are very rare). Is the market that big with a shrinking nylon/wool carpet market?

I do think the ability to do color repair on area rugs could be helpful, but I'm not sure I could build a business around dyeing wall to wall carpet.
Shoot, I do color correction, ... or should I say I used to.. LOL !!! I do not even carry my dye kit any more!!
As for the issues on polys, I do see them often . But nothing I have tried has been worth the trouble. crayons, CTI cosmetics, Rit disperse/union dye etc.
Mostly just experimenting on site for my own satisfaction. or shold I say aggravation. !!!

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Had to check the date of the first post to make sure it wasn't something carried over from the dawn of internet bulletin boards.

Very few have made a good living from dye services, they've moved on to something else if they stayed in the industry.
 
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We used to have Rainbow International, Langenwalter and a couple of others. I think they are all gone now. Color repair is a great skill to have. I just had a customer with nice 3 year old carpets need some work because his tenants had dripped bleach while disinfecting door knobs. I don't do it myself, I just don't have the eye for it or the patience but we have a local who does and this job will likely be at least $1000 for a couple of hours work.
 

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Shoot, I do color correction, ... or should I say I used to.. LOL !!! I do not even carry my dye kit any more!!
As for the issues on polys, I do see them often . But nothing I have tried has been worth the trouble. crayons, CTI cosmetics, Rit disperse/union dye etc.
Mostly just experimenting on site for my own satisfaction. or shold I say aggravation. !!!

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Nice pics. Do you know what chemical caused the damage? That looks exactly like the polyester color damages I've seen too.
 

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We used to have Rainbow International, Langenwalter and a couple of others. I think they are all gone now. Color repair is a great skill to have. I just had a customer with nice 3 year old carpets need some work because his tenants had dripped bleach while disinfecting door knobs. I don't do it myself, I just don't have the eye for it or the patience but we have a local who does and this job will likely be at least $1000 for a couple of hours work.
Depending on how extensive the DRIPS are, and since it is a rental, I often just use a black, or other color sharpie, to darken then slightly. Then your eye is not drawn to them .
 

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Depending on how extensive the DRIPS are, and since it is a rental, I often just use a black, or other color sharpie, to darken then slightly. Then your eye is not drawn to them .
These were very extensive. Carpet is a light brown and should be easy to fix. At times I've done a tempory fix with oil pastel crayons. Knowing how to repair bleach spots can be very lucrative.
 

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We used to have Rainbow International, Langenwalter and a couple of others.
Rainbow is still around, they just shifted to a little carpet cleaning and mostly restoration. They haven't offered dye services for a couple of decades.

Langenwalter raised their franchise fees to the point where most franchisees dropped out. The local was good enough for us to refer. We miss her.

Knowing how to repair bleach spots can be very lucrative.
I guess this depends on your market. Our techs got us back into spot dying a few years ago, claiming they saw bleach spots ALL THE TIME! In reality we saw bleach spots about twice a month and the service was never profitable.
 

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Rainbow is still around, they just shifted to a little carpet cleaning and mostly restoration. They haven't offered dye services for a couple of decades.

Langenwalter raised their franchise fees to the point where most franchisees dropped out. The local was good enough for us to refer. We miss her.


I guess this depends on your market. Our techs got us back into spot dying a few years ago, claiming they saw bleach spots ALL THE TIME! In reality we saw bleach spots about twice a month and the service was never profitable.
I think it's better suited to an owner/op rather than a company with multiple techs. I see bleach stains quite often but there is a big difference between pointing them out and actually getting paid to fix them.
 

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Reminds me of Udy's business. The repair part seems very profitable. Most places have a carpet that could be stretched or re-attached at the transition to other flooring. Knowing how to dye is worthwhile. Spot dying can be a quick and nice profit. What happened to the mango cleaning franchise?
 
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I always wondered what it takes to get the first person to buy in. What a leap of faith.

I mean, in the real world I'm sure the franchisor has at least a dozen or so corporately owned locations for proof of concept and proven systems. The longer I'm in it, the more I realize that this industry doesn't always run like the real world. He'll probably make millions.
 

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And while they could dye it, it will be the excuse mom/wife was waiting for to "get rid of that carpet"..
The problem with whole room dying was/is the dyed carpets do not reflect light like the original. Many wall to wall carpets, especially wools are multiple colors, so dying one solid color is un-natural.
Wear patterns are still wear patterns and the light reflects differently...color doesn't look the same...too dark or too light. Now it's old and fake.
Small spot dying is tricking the eye/brain. Blending and close is enough to lose the spot.
Or maybe that's just me...I lose a lot of golf balls.
 

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And on his website it shows going from a pinkish carpet to a dark blue.
How ugly!
MOST carpets are beige or brown around here
 
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Shoot, I do color correction, ... or should I say I used to.. LOL !!! I do not even carry my dye kit any more!!
As for the issues on polys, I do see them often . But nothing I have tried has been worth the trouble. crayons, CTI cosmetics, Rit disperse/union dye etc.
Mostly just experimenting on site for my own satisfaction. or shold I say aggravation. !!!

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Polyester. It always goes purple with bleach. Nothing you do will make the dye strike properly. It might appear it has, but it won't or hasn't.
 
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We used to have Rainbow International, Langenwalter and a couple of others. I think they are all gone now. Color repair is a great skill to have. I just had a customer with nice 3 year old carpets need some work because his tenants had dripped bleach while disinfecting door knobs. I don't do it myself, I just don't have the eye for it or the patience but we have a local who does and this job will likely be at least $1000 for a couple of hours work.


I did a lot of work with Dan and Murray when they had the Langenwalter franchises here. They taught me a lot about overall dying and spot dying. The room dying never came out even. The franchise fees were quite reasonable.

Whatever happened to the guy who used to dye the White House? Did Trump eat him? And who can forget Steve Mathie and the Ropers?
 

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I did a lot of work with Dan and Murray when they had the Langenwalter franchises here. They taught me a lot about overall dying and spot dying. The room dying never came out even. The franchise fees were quite reasonable.

Whatever happened to the guy who used to dye the White House? Did Trump eat him? And who can forget Steve Mathie and the Ropers?
He was sending Dik piks.
 
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