See why the Phoenix is the King of Scrub
- Thread starter Mikey P
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KSL
Member
That white tab is FLYING
Steve Lawrence
Member
Huh?
Mikey P
Administrator
Please tell me you're either stoned off your ass or you don't have your glasses on because surely you didn't live to be your age being this unobservant
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
What an ass
Mikey P
Administrator
you cant see it either?
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Of course.
However if that's your "marker" my 175's & 320 rpm buffers blow that away.
Don't run off our crew.
However if that's your "marker" my 175's & 320 rpm buffers blow that away.
Don't run off our crew.
Mikey P
Administrator
Cleanworks
Moderator
I just tried it on my sprayborg. The white tag rotates at about 60 rpm.
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Mikey P
Administrator
Larger orbit= less Don King
Hack Attack
Member
I always figured Don King was in another galaxy...
Never tried a jiggler, but always figured they were better for the less experienced.
Cant see how a noob wouldnt/couldnt do just as much damage with that rpm
Cleanworks
Moderator
Good lubrication. Mine is with a 21 inch pad. It would be faster with a smaller one.
Nah, the oscillations/tamping balance it out. When i tried it in Scottsdale, padman, i was sold.
Rob Grady
Member
Which one is making the jackhammer sound?
Cleanworks
Moderator
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Research the “tamping action”. Mikey will slam me, but that’s OK.
The TRS “tamping action” is nothing more than a washer that is attached to one of the three bolts that simply tilts the driver a few millimeters. That offset tilts the pad driver which actually keeps the driver from ever being completely level with the surface.
Because of the “tamping action”, the TRS driver only rides on its outer edge. Much like a rotary.
When I owned a TRS Spyder, I didn’t like how the Spyder didn’t “dig” like my Orbot did, so I removed the washer, which slowed down the rotations, but the machine cleaned better.
Problem was, I couldn’t push the machine forward as fast because the extra friction slowed it down.
As far as deep cleaning goes, my Orbot cleaned the best, though not as fast.
I could push the Spyder fast, but the pad skimmed over the carpet, until I removed the tamping washer.
I ended up preferring the ECO machines because they didn’t use the “tamping”, which gave me a better clean, but the beefier motor still allowed me to push the ECO as fast as the Spyder when it had the “tamping” washer.
So... for me, the ECO gave me the same clean as the TRS machine WITHOUT the stupid “tamping” washer, but with the same speed as the TRS machine WITH the tamping washer.
I report, you decide.
The TRS “tamping action” is nothing more than a washer that is attached to one of the three bolts that simply tilts the driver a few millimeters. That offset tilts the pad driver which actually keeps the driver from ever being completely level with the surface.
Because of the “tamping action”, the TRS driver only rides on its outer edge. Much like a rotary.
When I owned a TRS Spyder, I didn’t like how the Spyder didn’t “dig” like my Orbot did, so I removed the washer, which slowed down the rotations, but the machine cleaned better.
Problem was, I couldn’t push the machine forward as fast because the extra friction slowed it down.
As far as deep cleaning goes, my Orbot cleaned the best, though not as fast.
I could push the Spyder fast, but the pad skimmed over the carpet, until I removed the tamping washer.
I ended up preferring the ECO machines because they didn’t use the “tamping”, which gave me a better clean, but the beefier motor still allowed me to push the ECO as fast as the Spyder when it had the “tamping” washer.
So... for me, the ECO gave me the same clean as the TRS machine WITHOUT the stupid “tamping” washer, but with the same speed as the TRS machine WITH the tamping washer.
I report, you decide.
hogjowl
Idiot™
I can’t tell you how interesting all this is
Why is her watch half way up her arm?
Cleanworks
Moderator
I can't comment on how they get their "tamping" action but after having used the phoenix on the back offices of the hotel we were staying in, In Phoenix, I was quite impressed by how easy it was to maneuver and how fast and easy it cleaned. I use a Sprayborg and found it quite comparable, if not better. It cleaned well and looking at the pads afterwards, they were dirty all over, not just on the edges.
No idea. I have a client that wears a watch that is loose like a bracelet.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
I think the Orbot cleans the best of all of them, just a little slow.
I think the TRS machines clean well, but took the tamping washer off and it was better... when I tried it.
The offset washer is only a few mm thick, so the pads should still contact the surface, just not with the full head weight.
The TRS machines certainly fly...
Do you have the internet? Or is it hard to look up while riding your new Indian up and down the fence line?
Mikey P
Administrator
$39.99, $24.99 and $19.99 for the mighty.
I'll let you know if there is a price reduction.
I'll let you know if there is a price reduction.
Cleanworks
Moderator
I don't know if they still make the sprayborg but new it was about $4500. I believe the comparable machine from Trs about the same. The vibe is about $2500. I've never used the vibe but love my sprayborg. Easier to use than a Cimex and nearly as good.
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