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Let's hear your secret disgusting recipe.
He uses liquid enzymes that need a super long dwell (wasted) time to "eat" the bacteria that causes the odor to be offensive to the nose. And if he waits long enough, it'll attack the stain also with the power it has to beat the rules of science by neutralizing the ph of the alkaline salts, even though the ph of the liquid is only 8ish.

Sound stupid? That's almost as stupid sounding as saying our prespray has little robots that attack the soil, LOL


Serious note: A job like that needs a heavy coating of peroxide first and foremost. Dwell while setting up the job. Lately I've been adding 8oz of ammonia to my HF jug of magic juice and I've been getting wonderful results on the stain removal. I assumed it would have the same effects as stain magic on stains and it does when the ammonia mixes in with the peroxide and reactivates even more. If you can tolerate a little ammonia odor, then you'll like it also. Maybe not your customer, so make sure they're somewhere else while you're cleaning
 
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He uses liquid enzymes that need a super long dwell (wasted) time to "eat" the bacteria that causes the odor to be offensive to the nose. And if he waits long enough, it'll attack the stain also with the power it has to beat the rules of science by neutralizing the ph of the alkaline salts, even though the ph of the liquid is only 8ish.

Sound stupid? That's almost as stupid sounding as saying our prespray has little robots that attack the soil, LOL


Serious note: A job like that needs a heavy coating of peroxide first and foremost. Dwell while setting up the job. Lately I've been adding 8oz of ammonia to my HF jug of magic juice and I've been getting wonderful results on the stain removal. I assumed it would have the same effects as stain magic on stains and it does when the ammonia mixes in with the peroxide and reactivates even more. If you can tolerate a little ammonia odor, then you'll like it also. Maybe not your customer, so make sure they're somewhere else while you're cleaning
I thought it was vinegar that worked better on urine. I haven’t ever added either to a pre spray. Just had plenty of old people tell me vinegar.
Vinegar by the way is a very racist word that I cannot believe we are still able to use.
 

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Amazing what animals do on carpet. More amazing is the owners allowing it to happen. I have a little buddy at home...if he ever began to do that horsey junk on the floor...bye bye dude he will be tied to a tree outside.
 

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I thought it was vinegar that worked better on urine. I haven’t ever added either to a pre spray. Just had plenty of old people tell me vinegar.
Vinegar by the way is a very racist word that I cannot believe we are still able to use.
Vinegar is stupid. And it smells like nasty armpits. I would never put that odor in someone's home.

Ammonia activates the peroxide even more and makes the peroxide more aggressive to the stains.
 

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I thought it was vinegar that worked better on urine. I haven’t ever added either to a pre spray. Just had plenty of old people tell me vinegar.
Vinegar by the way is a very racist word that I cannot believe we are still able to use.
To say vinegar is racist is sooooo fooking stupid. Just because it may sound like some other word. Look up the etymology of the word. It really means sour wine. How is it racist if I tell you to fook off, you sour wine? That's political correctness out of control.
 

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I suspect that there is plenty of ammonia present without the need for you to add any. Ammonia is a natural result of the decomposition of urine. Ammonia is responsible for much of the unpleasant urine odor. If you can drop the pH of an ammonia solution sufficiently, the odor will greatly decrease. One of the reasons that vinegar has any effect on urine odor.
 

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I suspect that there is plenty of ammonia present without the need for you to add any. Ammonia is a natural result of the decomposition of urine. Ammonia is responsible for much of the unpleasant urine odor. If you can drop the pH of an ammonia solution sufficiently, the odor will greatly decrease. One of the reasons that vinegar has any effect on urine odor.
I agree. But what happens to urine after it’s soaked in peroxide for 15-20min? Wouldn’t adding ammonia to it after that help remove the yellow stain?
 

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To say vinegar is racist is sooooo fooking stupid. Just because it may sound like some other word. Look up the etymology of the word. It really means sour wine. How is it racist if I tell you to fook off, you sour wine? That's political correctness out of control.
You clearly do not get my sense of humor. Which I also find funny. Thank you.
 

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I agree. But what happens to urine after it’s soaked in peroxide for 15-20min? Wouldn’t adding ammonia to it after that help remove the yellow stain?
I would have to do some research to get a complete answer. But, the value of adding ammonia is to accelerate the action of the peroxide, make it work faster. Adding ammonia after the peroxide sits for 15 or 20 minutes does not seem to have much value.

Perhaps @Lee Stockwell or @Tom Forsythe have something to add.
 

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H2O2 has a pH of 2.5 alone. Our Urine Stain Remover and Stain Zone has some alkalinity in the formula to raise the pH to 5.5. If you add this to a urine stain it will be further accelerated by the alkaline salts. One of the primary alkaline salts is ammonia based. Ironically it has already been accelerated by ammonia so there is no need to add more.
 

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I would have to do some research to get a complete answer. But, the value of adding ammonia is to accelerate the action of the peroxide, make it work faster. Adding ammonia after the peroxide sits for 15 or 20 minutes does not seem to have much value.

Perhaps @Lee Stockwell or @Tom Forsythe have something to add.
My thought process is:
The peroxide turns the dried urine salts back into it's liquid acid state. When the magic juice + ammonia is applied it, (like you said in accelerating the peroxide), in whatever is still active while it helps in vanquishing the stains and dissolving the grease as it breaks down the organic compounds in the urine
 

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My thought process is:
The peroxide turns the dried urine salts back into it's liquid acid state. When the magic juice + ammonia is applied it, (like you said in accelerating the peroxide), in whatever is still active while it helps in vanquishing the stains and dissolving the grease as it breaks down the organic compounds in the urine


Don't worry about what they say....Just do what works for you.
You're the one on the job and you're the one cashing the check. Who cares what chemist wannabes say...they're not there in the trenches with you 😁 pour that ammonia as much as your lungs allow.
 

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I like to hear it from both sides. I really did get surprisingly great results from a job that I do like clockwork from a couple of bachelor college kids that trash their dad’s house with a pet and spilled drinks. I’ve tried several different products and...
Treating all organic stains with peroxide
Dwell time
Spraying all carpet with normal prespray mixed with 1oz per gallon ammonia
Hwe with acid rinse

It gave me the best results so far.
 

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@Matt Wood what ammonia ya buy? What ratio of dilution? 0.5 - 1 oz to gallon?

I heard good thing about this product, so i might give this a try.

Pure Ammonia

I use ammonia for window cleaning but i dont like like the one from home depot. I usually use a capful per gallon for window cleaning.
 

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@Matt Wood what ammonia ya buy? What ratio of dilution? 0.5 - 1 oz to gallon?

I heard good thing about this product, so i might give this a try.

Pure Ammonia

I use ammonia for window cleaning but i dont like like the one from home depot. I usually use a capful per gallon for window cleaning.
Nvm, dont do it. Freight shipping only lol. Additional 100 bucks for shipping of 1 gall of ammonia that cost $64
 

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@Matt Wood what ammonia ya buy? What ratio of dilution? 0.5 - 1 oz to gallon?

I heard good thing about this product, so i might give this a try.

Pure Ammonia

I use ammonia for window cleaning but i dont like like the one from home depot. I usually use a capful per gallon for window cleaning.
It’s just the ammonia at Wally World or dollar store. That’s all I have
 
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If you have an Ace hardware around they carry a 10% "janitorial" strength ammonia. Good stuff! A gallon runs right around 10 bucks where I'm at.
 

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