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Very nice!

Two hole glides?

Are you getting good at adjusting each job?

Do you have to adjust or you just run it the same way every job?

Do you notice, noticeable increase in production with the 2 extra inches?

Is it more strenuous than the 13 or about the same?

Do you dry stroke? As I see you clean bothforward and back.
 

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Oh and Erick is supposed to be getting on of the prototype wand handles out to me to try out will report back when I have played with it a bit.
 
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Very nice!

Two hole glides?

Are you getting good at adjusting each job?

Do you have to adjust or you just run it the same way every job?

Do you notice, noticeable increase in production with the 2 extra inches?

Is it more strenuous than the 13 or about the same?

Do you dry stroke? As I see you clean bothforward and back.

On this job the front glide was slotted. Because I have the 15 set up for commercial I don't have to make a lot of adjustments. I use the 13 for empty residential jobs and I find I make more adjustments for it than the 15. On this job I didn't do any dry stokes. I accidentally took the keys home and had to return them the next day and the carpets looked great, there wasn't any browning. I don't think I'm going to like the wand style handle. I really like the change from the wand stroke. I like walking the zipper back and fourth. I think it's less fatiguing and with extend my career.
 

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Oh and Erick is supposed to be getting on of the prototype wand handles out to me to try out will report back when I have played with it a bit.

The wand-style handles will be available the beginning of next week. I only have your PO Box address. Text me your address and I'll send you one out to try.
 
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I have had the 13" zipper for 2 weeks and founditiseasier to walk it like a lawn,ower
Also it seems to clean better if u go forward instead of pulling it.....

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I still love my Zipper. The fun of using it has not worn off yet and I still use it on almost every residential job. Its funny how many customers love seeing all that water shooting up the sight glass. They get quite excited!
 

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Been talking with Cap about the Zipper for residential lately, keep the updates going guys. Does Zipper offer you a trial period like Rotovac does.
Like the 2week send back if no likey? No charge? I still have my Rotovac 360i But love the idea of being able to get in corners and no rakey.

Most importantly the traditional wand method is really starting to bother my top technician as well as raking.

Thanks guys
 
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Yea bill still going strong with the zipper..
Cleaned a extremely dirty rental today...iv cleaned it before ...but went thrust with the zipper and cleaned at least twice as good...no dry strokes and barely Damp when I left....used the flex powder...
Pushing the zipper gives u a dry stroke and I believe a little more steam which is great cleaning...

Cap
 

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Been talking with Cap about the Zipper for residential lately, keep the updates going guys. Does Zipper offer you a trial period like Rotovac does.
Like the 2week send back if no likey? No charge? I still have my Rotovac 360i But love the idea of being able to get in corners and no rakey.

Most importantly the traditional wand method is really starting to bother my top technician as well as raking.

Thanks guys
You'll have to speak with Eric. He had at one time a program where you paid the freight for the demo.
 
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We used to use drag wands about 25 years ago and they did a nice job. This is similar but more refined and the dual suction ports is a great idea.

I'd like to try one sometime. I'm concerned that it may not clean edges as well as a wand.

Is that $1995 the same price for 13" and 15"?
 
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We used drag wands for quite some time too.

Erik has taken it to another level with the Zipper. It clean both forward and backward, which would make it more wand like. Throw in the new handle and now you have a tool the will feel like your wand but have the weighted head to contain the heat and the dual vacuum chamber to leave carpet drier carpet.
 

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If it ain't broken, don't fix it. I think putting a traditional wand style handle on it instead of the T bar handle is a mistake. I have frozen shoulders from throwing and pulling the wand. I've had cortizone shots, extended physical therapy. I've got some of my range back but not all of it. I can lift my arms up over my head again now and reach behind my back to tuck in my shirt but it's not 100% maybe 80-85%. That's probably the best I'll be able to get. The encapsulitis has so much scar tissue built up now.. the only way to get me to 100% is for them to put me out completely and force the shoulder joint to rip apart the scar tissue to free the muscles and ligaments. Even then, the cure may be worse then the curse.

Personally, I'd leave the zipper as it is. If I could justify the price which I can't right now, but if I was in the market for a new wand and had a system to correctly utilize all of it's benefits to the max... it would be the zipper. Although, I haven't tried a Prochem Ti wand eiher so maybe I'm speakng prematurely. But I like the idea of "mowing" a lot better than all the pressure and twisting with traditional wanding motions.

Bill
 
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I understand where you are coming from bill, but for commercial office areas with large amounts of cubicles, the wand style is a good option as you can just push directly down on the wand and it will push away from you, which is great for small places like cubicles and such.

At mf10 the wand style was surprisingly comfortable to use and overall operate and I do not believe I was alone in this impression.

For wide open areas I would defiantly use the normal setup as I like my arm and shoulder to not get killed on large commercial jobs.
 
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If it ain't broken, don't fix it. I think putting a traditional wand style handle on it instead of the T bar handle is a mistake. I have frozen shoulders from throwing and pulling the wand. I've had cortizone shots, extended physical therapy. I've got some of my range back but not all of it. I can lift my arms up over my head again now and reach behind my back to tuck in my shirt but it's not 100% maybe 80-85%. That's probably the best I'll be able to get. The encapsulitis has so much scar tissue built up now.. the only way to get me to 100% is for them to put me out completely and force the shoulder joint to rip apart the scar tissue to free the muscles and ligaments. Even then, the cure may be worse then the curse.

Personally, I'd leave the zipper as it is. If I could justify the price which I can't right now, but if I was in the market for a new wand and had a system to correctly utilize all of it's benefits to the max... it would be the zipper. Although, I haven't tried a Prochem Ti wand eiher so maybe I'm speakng prematurely. But I like the idea of "mowing" a lot better than all the pressure and twisting with traditional wanding motions.

Bill
I am with you..pinched nerve in the neck and arm for years...chiropracter.....I havent had any neck or arm pain since I started using the zipper...totlly different muscles
I agree ... leave the tbar use left or right hand or both...enter the post wand system....
Go back to pushing it while walking and youl have a nice workout but no shoulder pain....
Also if you go at the right pace all you need is one pass going forward even on very dirty carpets...as I learned at a filthy restuarant this week

Great for commercial rentals.....large homes ..but needs a lighter head for tight places bedrooms.....maybe eric will come out with a head made of aluminum??should drop 10..15 lbs off the head part....
info..prochem ti wand is 1500$ with glide...500$ more get the zipper
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I think Erik was selling them as an option, not one or the other.

As far as use, I think the wand handle felt more familiar and comfortable but I don't have back or shoulder issues. So I can't really speak to the difference in the two handles as far as pain.

Using the two I liked that wand handle the best.
 
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I think Erik was selling them as an option, not one or the other.

As far as use, I think the wand handle felt more familiar and comfortable but I don't have back or shoulder issues. So I can't really speak to the difference in the two handles as far as pain.

Using the two I liked that wand handle the best.

You don't have any arm or shoulder issues because you are in the office all day sippin Starbucks while we are out the field working for a living!

Must be nice to be rich! Isn't it rich?

:) boy this is fun, Boyle must thoroughly enjoy himself when he rips poeple for real.
 

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I'm going to get a chance to demo the 13 inch zipper. While I'm excited I am also not keen on the price or the weight of it, but I will have to see. I have a feeling they're going to need to make a lighter weight one for residential cleaners like myself.

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If it ain't broken, don't fix it. I think putting a traditional wand style handle on it instead of the T bar handle is a mistake. I have frozen shoulders from throwing and pulling the wand. I've had cortizone shots, extended physical therapy. I've got some of my range back but not all of it. I can lift my arms up over my head again now and reach behind my back to tuck in my shirt but it's not 100% maybe 80-85%. That's probably the best I'll be able to get. The encapsulitis has so much scar tissue built up now.. the only way to get me to 100% is for them to put me out completely and force the shoulder joint to rip apart the scar tissue to free the muscles and ligaments. Even then, the cure may be worse then the curse.

Personally, I'd leave the zipper as it is. If I could justify the price which I can't right now, but if I was in the market for a new wand and had a system to correctly utilize all of it's benefits to the max... it would be the zipper. Although, I haven't tried a Prochem Ti wand eiher so maybe I'm speakng prematurely. But I like the idea of "mowing" a lot better than all the pressure and twisting with traditional wanding motions.

Bill

Bill, thanks for the great advice. The Zipper can be purchased with either handle. (it's all in personal preference)
 

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I'm going to get a chance to demo the 13 inch zipper. While I'm excited I am also not keen on the price or the weight of it, but I will have to see. I have a feeling they're going to need to make a lighter weight one for residential cleaners like myself.

Will report back

With the new handle on residential, i agree it needs to be lighter. We have one being made now. We will see if it effects the performance or dry times.
 

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Been talking with Cap about the Zipper for residential lately, keep the updates going guys. Does Zipper offer you a trial period like Rotovac does.
Like the 2week send back if no likey? No charge? I still have my Rotovac 360i But love the idea of being able to get in corners and no rakey.

Most importantly the traditional wand method is really starting to bother my top technician as well as raking.

Thanks guys

Bill, I offered to lend you mine before to try it out and you did not replied. Send me a PM and I will drop it off at your place.
 
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Eric,

I don't know how "great" my advice is but the Zipper wand is pretty amazing, its performance speaks for itself. It is a high quality precision made wand ideally suited for cleaning/restoring commercial carpets. I understand enough about manufacturing to know that you are constantly having to change, modify, add additional features to an existing product to attract new customers or different markets to keep the doors open.

I think your T handle is a feature that will save a lot of cleaners from themselves. But who am I to say what tool a cleaner can or should use. I hate to see you water down your design and compromising the effectiveness of the Zipper. If you are able to decrease weight, maintain cleaning performance AND give cleaners an option of wand handles for residential cleaners than that's a win-win-win and my issue of keeping the T handle to save cleaners shoulders is immaterial.

Continued success to you,
Bill
 

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