Blood ?

[Jim Pemberton]

I looked at your responses last night but didn't get done til late so I haven't responded. I apologize.
I came up incredibly well. I still don't understand the rinsing it first. It seems like getting it wet would make the peroxide less effective. That being said, it worked well.
Oh and My favorite part was how it fizzled up when it came in contact with the blood. Reminded me of my childhood. My mom would always use peroxide.

Also, it was kind of a sad situation, this dude got broken into and robbed and beaten pretty good.
The crazy part is that he's a gay guy and had 3 really hot chicks as friends helping him clean and jumping on the bed with him. No other guys over helping him, just 3 hot chicks. What in the world. It just doesn't seem fair.

Human blood = potential exposure to blood borne pathogens.

I'm not saying this because of his age or lifestyle either. People of all ages and life histories can have hepatitis, as an example. I've lost friends to such diseases, and some got it from accidental contact.

Take these situations seriously ...please

 

[hogjowl]

Glad it worked for you.

 

[Old Coastie]

Just three hot chicks?

<shrug>

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Human blood = potential exposure to blood borne pathogens.

I'm not saying this because of his age or lifestyle either. People of all ages and life histories can have hepatitis, as an example. I've lost friends to such diseases, and some got it from accidental contact.

Take these situations seriously ...please

It seems Jim was reading my mind again....sorry for thinking what I did so loudly.

 

[hogjowl]

I bet FDR was reading your mind in his "fear itself" speech too.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I bet FDR was reading your mind in his "fear itself" speech too.

1st sentence middle paragraph only...

 

[Cleanworks]

wait for the phone call tomorrow.

 

[bob vawter]

It's not about getting it wet

wit three hot chicks there....i beg to differ..........

 

[Jim Pemberton]

It seems Jim was reading my mind again....sorry for thinking what I did so loudly.

I try to avoid being the grumpy old man, but I'm concerned about the lack of conversation about this issue.

I know it's more interesting to talk about removing stains, but even if you want to think that the advances in medical technology are such that these viral diseases might not kill you, you are overlooking the incredibly high cost of the medications needed to maintain your health and the lower overall quality of life you live while taking such treatments.

For those who remember Hill Street Blues: "Let's be careful out there"

 

[Desk Jockey]

The concern is that it shouldn't be taken too lightly. Blood needs to be looked at as an infectious material. All bodily fulids should be treated as potentially hazardous.

Hep c can still be a hazard for up to 3 weeks outside the body. Even dry its still a serious issue.

You don't want to get any into a cut or scrape. Tyvek is your best approach. Eye protection and hands too. Same concerns doffing and disposal of your PPE. All tools, hoses, waste tank need to be decontaminated.

I know its sounds like overkill, right up until you catch something. Or worse to transmit something to your wife or kids.

 

[hogjowl]

How in the world have we managed to survive with that stuff in our bodies?

 

[Desk Jockey]

How in the world have we managed to survive with that stuff in our bodies?

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This is why I didn't go into detail earlier. DIPSHIT!

 

[Nomad74]

If all else fails after peroxide, use rust remover.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Some comments in this thread imply that h2o2 is a magic bullet on blood, or that it "removes" it, dismissing the step of extracting the bulk of it with cool water.

 

[hogjowl]

Some comments in this thread imply that h2o2 is a magic bullet on blood, or that it "removes" it, dismissing the step of extracting the bulk of it with cool water.

You're a bit late with that one.

 

[Brody Robert]

It's not about getting it wet... it's about removing most of the contamination before introducing cleaning agents etc. Why would you not want to get most of it out with water?

I wasn't saying I wouldn't want to remove most of it with water or arguing your point at all. I was just thought that putting water on first would weaken the effects of the peroxide.

I also thought that peroxide killed germs and bacteria. (To what extent I have no idea). So I thought that putting the peroxide on first and leaving it for a while would help be a little more sanitary also.

Again, I'm not arguing because honestly I've not dealt with a lot of blood and I'm not a chemist or scientist. Just enjoy learning about it.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I wasn't saying I wouldn't want to remove most of it with water or arguing your point at all. I was just thought that putting water on first would weaken the effects of the peroxide.

I also thought that peroxide killed germs and bacteria. (To what extent I have no idea). So I thought that putting the peroxide on first and leaving it for a while would help be a little more sanitary also.

Again, I'm not arguing because honestly I've not dealt with a lot of blood and I'm not a chemist or scientist. Just enjoy learning about it.

Germs and bacteria are not your problem, virus are:

Virus are notoriously hard to "kill" (they are not exactly "living things" in the empirical sense of the word). It's viral infection that you are at the greatest risk from in this case, not bacterial. Add to that the fact that you can disinfect hard surfaces, but not porous textiles, such as carpet.

Carpet exposed to human blood should be discarded, and when doing so, you need to be dressed like the operator in Richard Chavez' picture.

Talk to a person dealing with hepatitis C, and you'all understand why Richard, Lee, and I are being so firm about this issue.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

I had a man once who wanted me to "clean and sanitize" the expensive mattress his elderly mother had bled to death on. He had inherited a fortune from her.

I declined, and gagged myself leaving the scene. He now has a huge grain storage operation over several counties. Almost 30 years later I still think of that mattress when driving past his silos.

 

[Cleanworks]

He probably wanted to frame it, like people do with the first dollar they made.

 

[Brody Robert]

Crazy. Well that's extremely good to know. Didn't mean to leave his carpet full of a bunch of viruses. Should I contact him and tell him to have his landlord rip the carpet out? Kinda feel bad now.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

We all think "we got it all" ....when that's nearly impossible in many cases. Even after the steps listed earlier, most of the veteran cleaners expect more trouble with it in a few days even with spots MUCH smaller than your pix.

 

[Brody Robert]

Are you talking about wick backs mainly?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Call it that for lack of a better term. However Luminol or UV lights show it too.

 

[Brody Robert]

Got cha. I'll give him a call tomorrow and see. He hasn't called me yet, so maybe that's a good sign.

 

[hogjowl]

And go to your doctor for tests.

Before you die a horrible death.

 

[Desk Jockey]

 

[Brody Robert]

And go to your doctor for tests.

Before you die a horrible death.

Goodness, I didn't lick it.... tempting but I didn't it.
Just let me want do my dirty work.

 

[hogjowl]

Nobody named Richard should be talking about dicks

 

[Old Coastie]

Nobody named Richard should be talking about dicks

What if he knows other Richards?

Huh? Got rules for that too?

 

[roro]

Carpet exposed to human blood should be discarded, and when doing so, you need to be dressed like the operator in Richard Chavez' picture.
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While I respect your advice hugely I don't buy this one Jim and would be concerned at some taking your word as Gospel ( Talking about the first part here as the second part is a given . We all want to look like Richard.
The surgical hospitals that we clean would have a hissy-fit if we suggested tearing out carpet due to a bit of blood.

roro