Greg Cole
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XTREME1 said:Becker you want to visit my company I will pay your plane ticket, as long as you hang out with me and the boys
Crowley,
I'm in, provided you then come down here and shadow me for 1 day.
XTREME1 said:Becker you want to visit my company I will pay your plane ticket, as long as you hang out with me and the boys
meAt said:It has always seemed a fair arrangement for a carpet cleaner to split jobs 50/50 with a contractor who gets the work if they are providing a steady flow of customers.
I can dig it, Art.
I wasn't questioning what's "fair".
If both parties agree, that's "fair" enough for me
(even Cole for that matter)
I was questioning Brian's implication that their "costs" were equal .
They're not and he knows that
thanks BrianBrian R said:At the time I was advertising pretty heavy along with everything else.
Now I've substituted time for money in aquiring jobs which is just as expensive.
so the answer is no.
your costs are nowhere near "equal" the Sub's
..L.T.A.
Brian R said:If a sub makes $100.00 per hour....what do I get for my time Mr. Larry?
Are you saying my time is worth nothing?
meAt said:Brian R said:If a sub makes $100.00 per hour....what do I get for my time Mr. Larry?
Are you saying my time is worth nothing?
NOPE, that's not what I'm saying at all, Brian
This has nothing to do with what you think your "time" is worth.
My question has NOTHING to do with what you or anyone else thinks is "fair" either.
I don't have problem with what you charge for your time and efforts
What i said was, your "costs" (expenses) are less than the sub's .
You KNOW appx how much insurance , vans, TMs, gas, maintenance, and chems "cost"
now PLEASE STOP with the chem-lie way of rationalizing deception as not being bullshit, 'kay?
it makes you "look like" a shifty mother f'ker
and I know you're not
let's try this again.
do you "genuinely" know that your "expenses" are equal to the sub's?
..L.T.A.
Art Kelley said:My point is getting customers is a huge part of what I had to do, and it is well worth paying 50% to someone for them if you just want to spend your time cleaning and making money.
meAt said:Brian R said:If a sub makes $100.00 per hour....what do I get for my time Mr. Larry?
Are you saying my time is worth nothing?
NOPE, that's not what I'm saying at all, Brian
This has nothing to do with what you think your "time" is worth.
My question has NOTHING to do with what you or anyone else thinks is "fair" either.
I don't have problem with what you charge for your time and efforts
What i said was, your "costs" (expenses) are less than the sub's .
You KNOW appx how much insurance , vans, TMs, gas, maintenance, and chems "cost"
now PLEASE STOP with the chem-lie way of rationalizing deception as not being bullshit, 'kay?
it makes you "look like" a shifty mother f'ker
and I know you're not
let's try this again.
do you "genuinely" know that your "expenses" are equal to the sub's?
..L.T.A.
Art Kelley said:My point is getting customers is a huge part of what I had to do, and it is well worth paying 50% to someone for them if you just want to spend your time cleaning and making money.
Brian R said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCawqpNb2xI
No offense, but I'll have to listen to Cole on this one. Because he has done it mo bettah than us or anyone else I've seen post on this board.
If a guy has his TM and van and equipment paid for and then does a job for me
XTREME1 said:You don't need to see my business Greg but I certainly would love to come see yours
Art Kelley said:meAt said:[quote="Brian R":1gdict3j]
If a sub makes $100.00 per hour....what do I get for my time Mr. Larry?
Are you saying my time is worth nothing?
NOPE, that's not what I'm saying at all, Brian
This has nothing to do with what you think your "time" is worth.
My question has NOTHING to do with what you or anyone else thinks is "fair" either.
I don't have problem with what you charge for your time and efforts
What i said was, your "costs" (expenses) are less than the sub's .
You KNOW appx how much insurance , vans, TMs, gas, maintenance, and chems "cost"
now PLEASE STOP with the chem-lie way of rationalizing deception as not being bullshit, 'kay?
it makes you "look like" a shifty mother f'ker
and I know you're not
let's try this again.
do you "genuinely" know that your "expenses" are equal to the sub's?
..L.T.A.
Able 1 said:[quote="Art Kelley":2bpmkhyd]
My point is getting customers is a huge part of what I had to do, and it is well worth paying 50% to someone for them if you just want to spend your time cleaning and making money.
XTREME1 said:If a guy has his TM and van and equipment paid for and then does a job for me
As a business man you do realize that is one of the dumbest statements made in our industry.
meAt said:Brian R said:If a sub makes $100.00 per hour....what do I get for my time Mr. Larry?
Are you saying my time is worth nothing?
NOPE, that's not what I'm saying at all, Brian
This has nothing to do with what you think your "time" is worth.
My question has NOTHING to do with what you or anyone else thinks is "fair" either.
I don't have problem with what you charge for your time and efforts
What i said was, your "costs" (expenses) are less than the sub's .
You KNOW appx how much insurance , vans, TMs, gas, maintenance, and chems "cost"
now PLEASE STOP with the chem-lie way of rationalizing deception as not being bullshit, 'kay?
it makes you "look like" a shifty mother f'ker
and I know you're not
let's try this again.
do you "genuinely" know that your "expenses" are equal to the sub's?
..L.T.A.
gregcole said:WTF does Brian's costs vs the costs of the contractor have to do with what he should make on the job?
meAt said:gregcole said:WTF does Brian's costs vs the costs of the contractor have to do with what he should make on the job?
pay attention Cole
and read my lips...I DON'T GAF WHAT BRIAN CHARGES
If both parties are agreeable, it's all good...same for YOUR subs
I don't GAF if they get 2%...if it's all above board and they agree...it's a legit deal
my POINT was, is and always has been, Brian telling the subs his expenses are equal to theirs .
I'm not talking about YOUR expenses or anyone elses .
I'm talking SPECIFICALLY about BRIAN'S expenses ...nOT what he "charges" a sub for his services, but the implication he makes that his expenses are equal to the sub's
..L.T.A.