Butler system driveshaft grinding sound

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

I think one of the bearings on my driveshaft of my butler system is going bad..it still spins but it makes a grinding sound. Anyone have any idea if the bearings are replaceable?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Yes. Could be the clutch too.

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

Yes. Could be the clutch too.

I'll have to call butler tomorrow but I cant imagine this being an inexpensive fix. And I had it running ok for a little while smh

 

[hogjowl]

I can’t imagine trying to fix it myself
Good luck

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

I can’t imagine trying to fix it myself
Good luck

Me neither...I've had nothing but problems with this thing but I cant sell it in this condition and I keep telling myself the problems will eventually stop but they dont. And I'm literally disabled at the moment.

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

Here is a video of the sound it makes while running

 

[FredC]

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• FredC
• Nov 20, 2018

 

[Lee Stockwell]

An over ten year old unit probably due for some TLC, after all it outlasted the GM running gear.

 

[Mark Saiger]

I think one of the bearings on my driveshaft of my butler system is going bad..it still spins but it makes a grinding sound. Anyone have any idea if the bearings are replaceable?

Try taking the belts off the blower and cat pump first. See if the grinding remains. If no grind add the blower belts... If no grind... Add the cat pump.... Or do opposite each unit first and such to eliminate if one of these parts also making noise

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

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Try taking the belts off the blower and cat pump first. See if the grinding remains. If no grind add the blower belts... If no grind... Add the cat pump.... Or do opposite each unit first and such to eliminate if one of these parts also making noise

I will try that. What if the grind remains even if I dont have the blower or cat pump belts on?

 

[Mark Saiger]

I will try that. What if the grind remains even if I dont have the blower or cat pump belts on?

Then you might need a drive shaft.

Butler can help you with other test info.

It takes about two hours to mount a new drive shaft

Take out the front drivers seat.

Need to pull the engine shroud

Pull the breather box.

Remove rear pulley with pulley puller

I did clutch and drive shaft once

That's an overview but not bad to do

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

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Then you might need a drive shaft.

Butler can help you with other test info.

It takes about two hours to mount a new drive shaft

Take out the front drivers seat.

Need to pull the engine shroud

Pull the breather box.

Remove rear pulley with pulley puller

I did clutch and drive shaft once

That's an overview but not bad to do

Any idea on the price for that?

 

[Mark Saiger]

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Any idea on the price for that?

I don't recall. Sorry

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

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I don't recall. Sorry

That's ok I appreciate the help as always

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

An over ten year old unit probably due for some TLC, after all it outlasted the GM running gear.

That's true, I'm just intimidated by the work it will take if I have to replace the driveshaft mainly because I still cant really walk too well. I've been paying my brothers to do all the carpet cleaning for me while I recover but I do go along when I can

 

[Pioneer Floorcare]

Give me a call if you are interested in rebuilding it yourself. The bearings cost less than $100, and the clutch is $150ish. I don’t recall the part numbers but the parts are very easy to get. It took me 3 hours to remove, rebuild, and reinstall. 907-350-0999

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

Give me a call if you are interested in rebuilding it yourself. The bearings cost less than $100, and the clutch is $150ish. I don’t recall the part numbers but the parts are very easy to get. It took me 3 hours to remove, rebuild, and reinstall. 907-350-0999

Ok I will as soon as I run some tests and confirm I have to rebuild it. Thank you!

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

Called Butler and they said I should remove the 2 belts in the engine bay and spin it and see if the clutch is making the grinding sound. The cost for a new clutch is 170$ and the cost for a driveshaft is 1000$ but if I send the old one back I get 400$ core charge

 

[FredC]

That seems extremely reasonable

 

[hogjowl]

That seems extremely reasonable

Shouldn’t you be fixing the damage you caused?

 

[FredC]

Shouldn’t you be fixing the damage you caused?

Anything in particular you want fixed?

 

[hogjowl]

Boyle’s personality

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

Update: I just ended up ordering a new driveshaft, clutch, and belts and will install it next week

 

[hogjowl]

You doing it yourself?

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

You doing it yourself?

Yes my brother and I are gonna install it. Butler said they would help if I have any questions during the process.

 

[hogjowl]

Keep us informed

 

[bob vawter]

Will you install using the masking tape
Process?

 

[steve_64]

Will you install using the masking tape
Process?

He would be wise to use an indicator you hack.

 

[bob vawter]

When a stealership calls for 3 hrs for a job.....and every tech In the shop can do it in one......are they all hacks..or are they smarter businessmen

 

[Andrew from Simply Clean]

So I get the driveshaft installed and go to put on the new belts and among the endless other things the previous owner screwed up on the tensioner for the belts is sheared off and now I don't know how I'm supposed to get the new belts on.