Cleanco VS Sapphire 1200

[PCCN]

Looking at replacing my slide-in with either a Cleanco PTO or Sapphire 1200 PTO. I have an older Cleanco Compact and its great for older machine with easy maintenance. I have been looking at specs on the new Sapphire 1200 and it as well looks sturdy and easy to maintain.

Anybody have real experience to compare the 2 machines on which would be most dependable and problem free? These are the only 2 I am looking at so please, not looking for info on HM, etc.

 

[Jimmy L]

I have a Quad 56 so I say are you happy with the cleanco........stay with that brand.

 

[Studebaker]

That 1200 looks nice

 

[Jim Martin]

I have the Sapphire 570....and if I could .......I would pull that blueline unit out of my big truck and put another one in there...

those machines are built tough..............if your stuck on having a PTO...I would go with the 1200....

that being said......my last 2 trucks were PTO...and I can honestly say one of the smartest moves I ever made for myself was to get a slide in....slide ins were not all that great when I first started out.but they have come a long way since then........

 

[idreadnought]

Both units are probably going to be great cleaning units. I would base my decision on accessibility of parts are repair dealers.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

My son Jason dropped a rod on his WM direct drive this morning.

While it is daunting to have to replace a truck engine, I'm sure the Chevy 350 will be nearly as cheap as most TM engines. Will try to have it done in a week tops.

 

[Sapphire Savant]

PCCN, go to the Main Page of Mikey's Board and click on the article entitled: Sapphire Scientific’s PRO-1200 Direct-Drive

Or click here: http://mikeysboard.com/2012/12/23/s...-technology-in-a-time-proven-slide-in-design/

Interesting info about the 1200 presented in an interview between Jon Simmons, Sapphire's Customer Relations Manager for technical support, and Sapphire's Project Engineer for the Pro-1200 direct drive.

 

[hogjowl]

From what jImMy Ladwig has told me, you can't run your hoses through the door port on a Cleanco, and that all by itself would be enough to make me select the 1200.

 

[PCCN]

Yea. This is a MAJOR issue. I have a Prochem Apex that is giving me FITS with an issue no one can diagnose so that is one of the main reasons for PTO.

 

[PCCN]

I thought the same so I bought a Prochem Apex a few years back. No issues until recently and I have a problem that no one can seem to diagnose. That truck has been down for weeks due to not being able to take the time and head out of town to a repair shop. Definitely have to go with less moving parts to go bad and give problems.

 

[Mikey P]

From what jImMy Ladwig has told me, you can't run your hoses through the door port on a Cleanco, and that all by itself would be enough to make me select the 1200.

Why is that?

 

[Jimmy L]

I suppose there is an option to do it but I've just never found it all that important.

 

[Mikey P]

is it the location of the unit's vac port?

I had that ability on my Butler and only used it ONCE

 

[Desk Jockey]

Does your distributor support both units?
Both are proven units and I would think either one would be a great machine but I'd lean towards how close is my support.

We have Butler's and they are great units with fast support with parts and are great on the phone trouble shooting BUT I sure wish they had local distributors. Fortunately problems are few and far between!

 

[hogjowl]

The Cleanco vac ports are high up on the top of the tank, and I have read jImMy say many times before that he would have to break out his windows to put a hole in there.

I suspect you were working for Colt when you had that Butler, weren't you Mikey? So you probably weren't too worried about any of the equipment being stolen late at night, or in bad areas of town.

 

[Jimmy L]

Notice the BLUE clickable link to those two brands?

Must be PAID ADVERTISERS and www.cleanco.com isn't.

Posts just to draw traffic to paid advertisers.

Sic

 

[Mikey P]

Nothing gets by you Inspector Clueless.

The advertisers pay for that nifty feature.

They love it.

 

[Mikey P]

Coit ran Hydramasters CDSs
I bought a new Butler when I started my own gig.