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[Mikey P]

Larry

How much room is between the vac hose reel and the TM?

What temps will I get with a 10 flow wand with 70º day time highs?

Can you post a photo of the #5MR blower sitting next to a 45 blower?

Can you have one of these units there to play with on May 30th?

 

[dealtimeman]

With that engine you should get as much heat as you want. Should be a very strong slide in good pump and good suck.

 

[Mikey P]

I'd like to hear more about the HX system

is excess hot water getting dumped into the waste tank?


can we get some aerial photos?

 

[clean image]

Mike, what pressure are you running. Your 10 flow wand?

 

[Mikey P]

We usually clean around 500 psi

 

[juniorc82]

I'd like to hear more about the HX system

is excess hot water getting dumped into the waste tank?


can we get some aerial photos?

Ive had a couple phone calls and did some emailing back and fourth with larry lately as Im in the market for a new tm. Based on how he explains it , he says that they also route the blwer exhaust through the hx which keeps the hx from getting much hotter than about 230. I dont really understand it but thats what he says. I dont know if there is some sort of emergency bleeding system, If I get one I would probly pay to have put on and set it to around 270 just in case a tech decided to answer a phone call and sat the wand down on full throttle. I gotta say a big reason I have looked at this tm is the waste and fresh set up looks realy space saving

 

[Mikey P]

yep, it's very appealing with the space savings, open construction, easy to get to HX and 56 blower.



I'm curious if the option to forgo to fresh tank and go all waste is available.

 

[Goldenboy]

Its not rocket science to mix powder chemicals that you have sold for years. Il risk 119 bucks for a bucket of pre-spray. No way am I going to send them boyz 20 g's to build a TM.

Golden Boy

 

[Mikey P]

how much did you pay Rich Michniak?

 

[clean image]

Quick math

10 flow at 500psi=3.5 gpm
50%. Duty
1.75 gal per min

Cobb. 235 at 2 gpm 50 duty
= 235 at 1 gpm
Assume 60 degree start

235-60= 175 rise at 1 gpm
=100 degree rise at 1.75 gpm
=60 degree water plus 100 rise = 160

Answer, 160 degree, at 10 flow, 500psi, 50% duty

Hydramaster
1.25gpm. At 184
Close to Cobb......230 degree at 1 gpm

As comparison , little giant 2,
90 degree at 1 gpm

 

[Dolly Llama]

Quick math

10 flow at 500psi=3.5 gpm

Rich, how did you calculate that?
Cause I'm not sure it's correct .
'least it didn't come to close to that when "bucket tested" and water measured .
More like 2 GPM.. "if" i recall right


..L.T.A.

 

[Mikey P]

160º?


sounds cold by some standards but have you ever say in a 105º hot tub?

 

[Mikey P]

Rich, how did you calculate that?
Cause I'm not sure it's correct .
'least it didn't come to close to that when "bucket tested" and water measured .
More like 2 GPM.. "if" i recall right


..L.T.A.

His name is Carl.


put down the little Debbies, all that refined sugar is making you go buggy eye'd

 

[FredC]

http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showthread.php?253056-Boring-Flow-Techie-Stuff

 

[Dolly Llama]

His name is Carl.


put down the little Debbies, all that refined sugar is making you go buggy eye'd

dude, these are the da bomb
giant box plumb full of 'em at Sam's Club for like 6-8 bukz

moist and rich too



..L.T.A.

 

[clean image]

Yea, I'm not discounting for line loss.

 

[Goldenboy]

16 grand. It was a gamble. But it paid off. Still my main machine. I can fix most of the stuff myself. My second TM is a Boxer runs real good. But if I have problems with it I be clueless.


Golden Boy

 

[clean image]

Thanks Fred, just saw that, awesome

 

[Larry Cobb]

We have worked hard to completely avoid "dumping hot water", and using exhaust diverters.

Our HX uses both engine exhaust & blower exhaust to heat solution water.

Blower exhaust is ~230° F , so it aids the heat rise, only up to that temp.

Above that temp, the higher CFM of the blower moderates the heat rise.

Our 46" long HX also holds more water than typical, for this industry.
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Our standard 14" wand runs #8 jet total @ ~230°F,

so the #10 flow (25% more) should be right @ 200° F.

Larry

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Fox used that system, likewise the 3rd blower core on the Everest is used for moderating (cooling mainly) water temperature.

 

[Mikey P]

200 ain't too shabby for a single wand. I would have to experiment with 8 flow though....been a long time.


pretty amazing that my Vortex can keep TWO 10 flow wands at well over 200º each.

 

[Larry Cobb]

yep, it's very appealing with the space savings, open construction, easy to get to HX and 56 blower.

I'm curious if the option to forgo to fresh tank and go all waste is available.

Yes . . .

Some of our restoration contractors opt for the 175 gallon recovery tank.

Larry

 

[Mikey P]

one hell of a unit Larry.


Any chance I can see or run one next month?

 

[Desk Jockey]

That's a decent sized waste tank, I'd upgrade to that size if it were an option.

 

[ThaBeast]

Do you have cfm numbers on this unit with 100-150 ft of hose attached?


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[juniorc82]

Is a 38 hp enough to push a #5 without making it work too hard?

 

[Larry Cobb]

Is a 38 hp enough to push a #5 without making it work too hard?

Jon;

The Kohler 38 HP engine . . .

easily powers the #5MR Sutorbilt blower.

It has more available HP,

than the PTO's with typical clutch drives.

Larry

 

[Chris A]

Yeah I would believe that esp. since the Pro-1200 does it with only 20 or so HP coming through the clutch...

 

[Larry Cobb]

Yeah I would believe that esp. since the Pro-1200 does it with only 20 or so HP coming through the clutch...

Unfortunately for PTO owners . . .

20 HP thru an AC clutch is NOT enough.

Larry

 

[bob vawter]

not enough for WHAT......?