Could the wait for the perfect tile wand finally be over?

[Mikey P]

PMF called yesterday, they are sending me a new HS wand to test..

What I like:

12" head
Swivel
Narrow vacuum slot
Vacuum tube not blocked
Killer tufted brush ring
S bend
1.5 tube
Built in M'erica

Concerns:

Confused airflow due to internal jetting
Price

 

[todg]

Nah...Maybe improved, but not the turbo hybrid superiority...Great for carpet cleaners!

 

[Mikey P]

Nah...Maybe improved, but not the turbo hybrid superiority...Great for carpet cleaners!

A tile/HS wand is not a replacement for a spinner.

for a self proclaimed Tile and Grout specialist, I'm almost shocked that you don't get it.


almost.

 

[todg]

I won't ever get it Mikey...It ain't my cup of tea...LOL, Where are you using that tool BTW?

 

[Vincent Feehan]

Rinse VCT and tile that doesn't need a spinner ,simple as that

 

[Mikey P]

where?

On lightly soiled TnG
The corners and edges of spinner'd areas where round dont fit.
LVP
Wood
Sheet
etc...



Why am I explaining this to a guy who only cleans hard surface?


But after doing the RMH in Vegas and seeing how all your competition are so incompetently equipped, I guess it's the industry standard to clean everything with a f'n Turbo.

 

[todg]

where?

On lightly soiled TnG
The corners and edges of spinner'd areas where round dont fit.
LVP
Wood
Sheet
etc...



Why am I explaining this to a guy who only cleans hard surface?


But after doing the RMH in Vegas and seeing how all your competition are so incompetently equipped, I guess it's the industry standard to clean everything with a f'n Turbo.

Exactly, you're explaining it to a guy who only cleans tile and grout...You labeled the headline of your POST "Tile Wand" Why not LVP Wand? Wood Wand? Sheet Wand?

For your information, I've cleaned over 10,000 tile and grout cleaning jobs without this tool...I actually thought about buying (pmf) over several years...Maybe this tool can be used as you mentioned, but I don't need it. You can make money any way you choose.

As far as your comment about Las Vegas (seems direct towards me) we are returning tile and grout back to like new effectively and efficiently daily...

I listen to your rants and your interviews and wonder about your competency...You seem to be a really nice guy, but I don't talk about the industry, I work in the industry...

And yes, I use the f'n Turbo hybrid! It is the best...

 

[Mikey P]

Actually Michael you didn't clean it the wrong McDonald house so I have no idea about your competency but I do know you walked away from a very easy scrub and recoat Saltillo job for my buddy

 

[todg]

Rinse VCT and tile that doesn't need a spinner ,simple as that

If your gonna pull and push a "tile wand" over any tile and grout, why not just pull and push a "turbo" FASTER and more EFFECTIVE - VCT maybe, sure...

 

[todg]

Actually Michael you didn't clean it the wrong McDonald house so I have no idea about your competency but I do know you walked away from a very easy scrub and recoat Saltillo job for my buddy

Mike, I didn't walk away from nobody, and, I surely wasn't interested in "recoating"...I have many Mexican tile and Saltillo tile and grout cleaning jobs completed...I don't recoat any surfaces, to be honest with you. As far as sealing, all day every day!

 

[Mikey P]

If your gonna pull and push a "tile wand" over any tile and grout, why not just pull and push a "turbo" FASTER and more EFFECTIVE - VCT maybe, sure...

Not faster.

And overeffective.

 

[Trip Moses]

PMF called yesterday, they are sending me a new HS wand to test..

What I like:

12" head
Swivel
Narrow vacuum slot
Vacuum tube not blocked
Killer tufted brush ring
S bend
1.5 tube
Built in M'erica

Concerns:

Confused airflow due to internal jetting
Price

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[Mikey P]

But let me get this straight, you won't clean and apply an additional top coat to Saltillo based on some weird code of ethics but you'll Turbo Tuilt edges, not get under low cabnates and clean square corners with a round tool.


Makes perfect sense.

 

[Mikey P]

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Please expand on your thoughts

 

[Trip Moses]

Please expand on your thoughts

Doesn’t look like anything new. Curious about recovery, bristles look long. Is there some plastic or whatever covering the outside of bristles? I’d rather see six jets with the end jets angled towards the ends of the head. Also, I’d like to see cone jets on a hard surface wand versus fan jets. Why so boxy? Can’t PMF stamp out something more sleek? Maybe it will be awesome? Doubt it.

 

[Cleanworks]

How difficult is it to remove the jets for cleaning or replacement? Does it come with an inline filter? What size are the jets?

 

[todg]

But let me get this straight, you won't clean and apply an additional top coat to Saltillo based on some weird code of ethics but you'll Turbo Tuilt edges, not get under low cabnates and clean square corners with a round tool.


Makes perfect sense.

The turbo does a tremendous (on a tilt) let alone with a pole brush along the edges (typical dirty grout/edges job)...As far as under cabinets, the tool is designed to get under counter cabinets...Never a problem...Your welcome to come on one of my average jobs @ 1000sf in 1.5 hours or less setup to breakdown...

 

[todg]

The turbo does a tremendous (on a tilt) let alone with a pole brush along the edges (typical dirty grout/edges job)...As far as under cabinets, the tool is designed to get under counter cabinets...Never a problem...Your welcome to come on one of my average jobs @ 1000sf in 1.5 hours or less setup to breakdown...

Let me Mentor you...

 

[Mikey P]

No thanks Michael, I'm well aware of how to hack away a tile job

 

[hogjowl]

It’s free
You’ll love it
It’ll be the next must have

 

[Mikey P]

You should know better than that, F'idiot

 

[Desk Jockey]

Not fond of internal jets. All the crap that is sucked up passes and clogs them.


Narrow vacuum slot loads with debris quickly. *We do use ours mostly for sewage or debris cleanup on WDR. They get used often, one is on each truck.

1.5 barrel just makes a stoopid whip required where the ones we have are designed for 2 inch.

 

[ruff]

Damn, what a circus.
Please report on how well the tool recovers water. Which is really what I want to know.

1. The previous wands could not recover water well. So, is this one an improvement?
2. How durable is the brush head.
3. Does it clog?
4. A 2" would be nice, so it fits with the other tools and does not require a whip.
5. Any other issues?

Would love to see a simple tile wand that actually works.

 

[BIG WOOD]

I like the fact that it's 12". It'll swivel between toilets and walls allot better than my 14"wp. I get a good swivel about 50% of the time with mine. I'm sure that 12" will fix that problem.

I'd like to see how the water recovery is between wood planks on hardwood, because I'm loving my dd. I'm halfway through my big wood job that I did and the customer was impressed and already paid me for the 1st half. I wasn't able to do the whole job because of weather. i didn't know what to do with furniture, so I'll finish it monday.

When you're done with testing, send over here (I'll pay shipping) for an east coast test.

 

[Mikey P]

Doesn’t look like anything new. Curious about recovery, bristles look long. Is there some plastic or whatever covering the outside of bristles? I’d rather see six jets with the end jets angled towards the ends of the head. Also, I’d like to see cone jets on a hard surface wand versus fan jets. Why so boxy? Can’t PMF stamp out something more sleek? Maybe it will be awesome? Doubt it.

6 jets, why not 18?

Cone jets have no impact compared to a T or V

Boxy?

We're not cleaned the salt flats, going for a land speed record


Sideways jets... Drunk much?

 

[Jimmy L]

speak Merican DAMN IT!

 

[Trip Moses]

6 jets, why not 18?

Cone jets have no impact compared to a T or V

Boxy?

We're not cleaned the salt flats, going for a land speed record


Sideways jets... Drunk much?

Whatever. That thing is a piece of . And you know it.

 

[BIG WOOD]

6 jets, why not 18?

Cone jets have no impact compared to a T or V

Boxy?

We're not cleaned the salt flats, going for a land speed record


Sideways jets... Drunk much?

I'm just glad to see them working on it

 

[Trip Moses]

6 jets, why not 18?

Cone jets have no impact compared to a T or V

Boxy?

We're not cleaned the salt flats, going for a land speed record


Sideways jets... Drunk much?

Sapphire Truckmounts. Dev wands. Zippers. The turbo hybrid. Etc...... All these companies are fine tuning and putting out great products and PMF wants to come out with that piece of Frankenstein crap. They should be ashamed.

 

[Cleanworks]

Sapphire Truckmounts. Dev wands. Zippers. The turbo hybrid. Etc...... All these companies are fine tuning and putting out great products and PMF wants to come out with that piece of Frankenstein crap. They should be ashamed.

You know anyone who puts out a better one?