Foam problem

[Louis]

So I have been getting a lot of foam in in my lint hog. I pre spray with cobbs. I only use a scoop per gallon sometimes more if it's bad. By the end of every job I lose some suction. Can you add de-foamer to a prespray?

Thank You

 

[hogjowl]

I have never heard of a defoamer you add to your prespray.

Are you running into this problem on a wide variety of jobs, or do you clean one or two commercial jobs only every month?

 

[Dan]

With the amount of prespray your using im leaning more for the customer using stuff in there carpet theory. Is it every single job or just occasional?

 

[ruff]

You're not supposed to use de-foamer sprayed on the carpet.
Just buy a powdered de-foamer (cheaper than the liquid, anyhow) and sprinkle on and suck. Should take care of the problem.

Also, If the foaming is due to the specific pre-spray (and not previous cleaning or rinsing agent) see if Texas Lar has another one that does not cause foaming. As it reduces suction efficiency and not just at the end of the job.

 

[Royal Man]

DON"T PUT IT IN THE PRE-SPRAY!! With defoamer just suck some into your vac hose. If you don't have any defoamer on the truck. A little solvent will work.

 

[Charlie Lyman]

Add some citrus solv to your prespray.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Add some citrus solv to your prespray.

Charlie is correct. Citrus Solv & our POG will minimize foam.

We also have surfactants that can defoam

(great for those carpets bonneted with shampoo for years).

PowerMax has a fairly low foam level.

The oxidizer can create some foam in the Lint Hog.

Larry

 

[Jim Martin]

Its been off a bit again....last bucket I got was not the stuff I have been use to....opened a new bucket yesterday and its better...but I noticed I have been having to go back a spot things that in the past would of came right out....its pretty easy to tell when they screw it up....after using this stuff for over 7 years....you pretty much know what to expect....how to mix it for what ever you run into...how it going to react.....or when quality control goes down the tubes and it gets screwed up again........haven't had any real foaming problems though.......

 

[Dan]

I use power max and don't have foam issues that's why I lean towards customers sprinkling smelly crap on there carpet. I will be ordering a new pail tomorrow and I will let you know how it compares to my last if different.

 

[Ron Lippold]

Put some Downey in your chem jug or your fresh water tank. No more foam, I did a few hundred thousand sq feet with it, it works.

 

[Louis]

It has been every job. I just got a new bucket and it looks more yellow and smells like citrus. last bucket was a very white powder.

 

[FLYERMAN]

Switch to this www.easyxtract.com has been the same every time for over ten years.

 

[hogjowl]

I just don't know how, or even why, you guys deal with this never ending problem with inconsistency. It would drive me crazy.

 

[Jim Martin]

I just don't know how, or even why, you guys deal with this never ending problem with inconsistency. It would drive me crazy.

for some of us it is not as short of a drive as it is for others....

but it is getting old....just another example of lack of quality in the industry........take something that is really really good...that everyone just raves about.......and watch it slowly go to hell.....and there is no real good reason as of why.........

 

[bob vawter]

I just don't know how, or even why, you guys deal with this never ending problem with inconsistency. It would drive me crazy.

short trip!

 

[hogjowl]

Not when I am on my medication.

 

[Art Kelley]

I always have Rinse Master available for those rare times foam is a problem, mostly on spills of laundry detergent (I pour it on straight), but sometimes there are frequent customer cleaning attempts with resolve that are difficult to rinse, I put a mixed solution of Rinse Master in a trigger sprayer. From their website:
Rinse Master™

Old Residue Remover

. Rinse Master™ is a neutral rinse for removing residues from manufacturing, vomit, pet accidents, consumer spotting attempts, extermination chemicals, old carpet shampoo and excess steam detergent the other guy left behind that can cause shaded areas, dullness or even spots. Most of these residue-caused traumas are easy to reverse if cleaned with Rinse Master. Many cleaners tell of trying "everything" on a problem carpet and then trying Rinse Master. They discover that when the culprit residues are removed the carpets are soft, new looking and don't even require further cleaning. Call us today at 800 523-3430

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[Charlie Lyman]

I just don't know how, or even why, you guys deal with this never ending problem with inconsistency. It would drive me crazy.

I wait until Jim comes on and says it is good. Then I order a bucket.

 

[rwcarpet]

I just don't know how, or even why, you guys deal with this never ending problem with inconsistency. It would drive me crazy.

Stick with what works. Procyon (which Smarty doesn't care for as a regular rinse) never foams for me. I also use S&G from Judson. Grease Eraser when really greasy. Keep a powdered defoamer on the truck. Just a pinch will kill a lot of foam. Don't forget that todays custys like to overuse their Hoover and Bissel "steam cleaners", which unfortuneatly cause a high degree of foaming with their crappy cleaning formulations.

 

[hogjowl]

I don't know why you said that. I love Procyon. Used it for years.

I simply got lured away a few years back and just never recovered.

 

[juniorc82]

Your machine might be sucking air from somewhere

 

[Jeremy]

Foam Solution:
This: http://encapstore.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=10

and a bit of duct tape over any vac hoses leaking air...

 

[Louis]

I just put on mytee cuffs yesterday so we will see if that helps tomorrow. I should be in the new bucket of cobbs by Tuesday.