jerry ACC
Member
I've added this to my web site.
I hope it offends all of you corner cutting, time saving Non-Vaccum Hacks.
I hope it offends all of you corner cutting, time saving Non-Vaccum Hacks.
For you non Pre Vacuum types
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Art Kelley
Supportive Member
If the carpet in the room weighs 100 lbs then you should show a picture of 800 lbs of soil. And that is how much your Hoover would need to remove in order for your ad to not be misleading or even nonsensical . I doubt you remove even 1/4 lb of soil with your vacuum.
Ken Snow
RIP
couldn't you find a cheaper, uglier tufted chin piece of crap rug than that to show your misleading advertising on? that rug sells brand new for less than most bdcc's here claim they clean for.
Geez- that kind of advertising looks like it belongs in the tv guide.
Geez- that kind of advertising looks like it belongs in the tv guide.
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Guest
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The Queen put you up to this right?
Ken Snow
RIP
Gay lover?
jerry ACC
Member
Wow first a Rainbow guy. (Rainbow Know for the manufacture and retail of Vacuum cleaners).
By the way vacuuming is not mentioned in any of the Rainbow sites 17 step cleaning.
And then the cheap guy with the Purple fleet.
What kind of professionals are you ?
By the way vacuuming is not mentioned in any of the Rainbow sites 17 step cleaning.
And then the cheap guy with the Purple fleet.
What kind of professionals are you ?
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
LOL@KS Again!
yor on a roll
yor on a roll
Ken Snow
RIP
LOL- good one. I have been accused of looking a little like Carson Kressley only a few lbs heavier and taller.
Ken Snow
RIP
It was the gayest photo I had Waldo, glad you liked it. T- we pay extra for that feature to be built into the shirts.
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
Sweet photo. We need to have a gayest photo contest. Can't post photo's of others, just yourself.
I'm gonna start searching.....shouldn't be too hard.
I'm gonna start searching.....shouldn't be too hard.
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
Actually Ken- This is probably your gayest photo.
LOL!!
LOL!!
rhyde
Member
Ken, i didn't know you where one of the village people 
this was in a 3 year old wool wall to wall in a master bedroom about 1,000 Sq ft. on the second floor and they have a full time house keeper that vacuumes weekly and pre vac'd before we got there.
always pre-vac
this was in a 3 year old wool wall to wall in a master bedroom about 1,000 Sq ft. on the second floor and they have a full time house keeper that vacuumes weekly and pre vac'd before we got there.
always pre-vac
jerry ACC
Member
I figured I'd offend someone for sure.
I'm just having fun ! I'm mad cause I'm sitting home waiting for the phone to ring and it isn't.
I am fairly new with only 2 years and still clawing my way along.
Although in my two years I have completed all of my IICRC courses for Master Textile Certification, and completed SFS.
Sorry Ken.
I'm just having fun ! I'm mad cause I'm sitting home waiting for the phone to ring and it isn't.
I am fairly new with only 2 years and still clawing my way along.
Although in my two years I have completed all of my IICRC courses for Master Textile Certification, and completed SFS.
Sorry Ken.
Ken Snow
RIP
LMFAO- that is perfect Jerry~ that'll win the contest for sure, with Doug's avatar of me in the mid 70's coming in second. Unfortunately I do have worse of me.
Hope the phone starts ringing for you J.
Ken
Hope the phone starts ringing for you J.
Ken
Doug Cox
Supportive Member
So Jerry- You think that rug only weighs in at 1 pound. Try again buddy. And please put the dirt in the rug to the point that it doesn't look dirty for me please.
Loren Egland
Member
Vacuum the carpet and weigh the soil. Then hot water extract and weigh that soil (after the water evaporates). Add them together to get total soil removal.
Now spend just as much time with a rotary jet extractor as you do with a combined vacuuming and hot water extracting. Weigh soil (after water evaporates). What is the total?
Compare total weight with both methods.
If I have two pair of pants with two pockets each, and one pair has 50% of the soil in one pocket and 50% of the soil in another pocket, do I have more soil in that pair of pants than I do in a pair of pants that has all the soil in one pocket and zero soil in the other pocket?
Just asking. :?
Now spend just as much time with a rotary jet extractor as you do with a combined vacuuming and hot water extracting. Weigh soil (after water evaporates). What is the total?
Compare total weight with both methods.
If I have two pair of pants with two pockets each, and one pair has 50% of the soil in one pocket and 50% of the soil in another pocket, do I have more soil in that pair of pants than I do in a pair of pants that has all the soil in one pocket and zero soil in the other pocket?
Just asking. :?
FLYERMAN
Supportive Member
Prevacuuming is basic brainwashing. If you won't clean a carpet without prevacuuming it then you're brainwashed. That is not alltogether a bad thing but it is a little extreme.
I never and I mean never prevac. I let the customer do it and give them the discount. They love me for it.
Ken Raddon.
I never and I mean never prevac. I let the customer do it and give them the discount. They love me for it.
Ken Raddon.
Ron Werner
Member
Prevacuumed by the home owner, 14 canisters removed from ONE living room, about 200sf
ONE bedroom and one hall, less than 200sf total
already prevacuumed by the owner
this living room, removed 3+ canisters of sand
various jobs, some prevac's, some not
100sf bedroom, prevacuumed by homeowner
From my turtle video
one a about 6 canisters, dirt and gyprock dust
Overrated?? Are you kidding me??
Jerry's pictures may be a little off but he's dead on. If you don't vacuum the carpet you are only guessing as to how clean you've got it. It may look clean, hell, the B&S cleaners can do that, but there could be enough soil in there to choke you're blower and you, the "professional" have no clue.
ONE bedroom and one hall, less than 200sf total
already prevacuumed by the owner
this living room, removed 3+ canisters of sand
various jobs, some prevac's, some not
100sf bedroom, prevacuumed by homeowner
From my turtle video
one a about 6 canisters, dirt and gyprock dust
steve said:
FLYERMAN said:
CleanEvolve said:
Overrated?? Are you kidding me??
Jerry's pictures may be a little off but he's dead on. If you don't vacuum the carpet you are only guessing as to how clean you've got it. It may look clean, hell, the B&S cleaners can do that, but there could be enough soil in there to choke you're blower and you, the "professional" have no clue.
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FLYERMAN
Supportive Member
Um, I'd have to see it to believe it.
Ken.
Ken.
Ron Werner
Member
any time you want to see it, just pull out a good clear canister vacuum on your job.
I've had very few homes where I put less than an inch of soil (hair, lint, dustsand etc) in the canister
I can post a pic from every job I do this year.
I've had very few homes where I put less than an inch of soil (hair, lint, dustsand etc) in the canister
I can post a pic from every job I do this year.
That is incredible every time I see it Ron. But you don't get those kind of results on every job, or do you?
I pre-vac probably 60 - 70% of the time becuase I look at the carpet and can see it needs it. However, a lot of newer houses that have been well maintained, that the customer has pre-vac'd before I got there just don't need it IMHO.
Don't you have some jobs where you barely get anything in the canister?
I pre-vac probably 60 - 70% of the time becuase I look at the carpet and can see it needs it. However, a lot of newer houses that have been well maintained, that the customer has pre-vac'd before I got there just don't need it IMHO.
Don't you have some jobs where you barely get anything in the canister?
Ron Werner
Member
it happens. I'll vacuum a house an put about an inch of soil or less in. That tells me their vacuum is working ok.CleanEvolve said:
This is my point. Most of those pictures are from soil removed from "clean looking carpet", already vacuumed by the owner.
I was tempted to not vacuum myself to save time but once I got into it, "oh, look what's coming in!!!"
Look at this pic:
the bottom layer of soil, about 1/2-1" high came from a 6ft longx 3' wide area from the top of the stairs to the kitchen entrance. The thinner middle layer came in from 2 other bedrooms, the remainder came from the MasterBR.
House is less than a year old, homeowner vacuumed before I got there with a built in with an air turbine power head.
I've been surprised too many times. I never know whats IN the carpet from looking at it.
rhino1
Member
OK, so it is nice that you pre-vac. Personally, I pre-vac with a powerhead attached to the TM, so I can send the dry soil on a 100 MPH joyride out the door and into the truck parked away from their home while at the same time producing a negative airflow that will draw clean, fresh, outside air into the home.
But I wouldn't say that you are polluting someones home by dragging in your DIRTY ASS vacuum cleaner into their house, spreading the germs, dust mites, bacteria, mold, and maybe some deadly strain of MONKEY HERPES you picked up from the last house that you vacuumed with that POS.
Or maybe I would....
But I wouldn't say that you are polluting someones home by dragging in your DIRTY ASS vacuum cleaner into their house, spreading the germs, dust mites, bacteria, mold, and maybe some deadly strain of MONKEY HERPES you picked up from the last house that you vacuumed with that POS.
Or maybe I would....
