Desk Jockey
Member
Is there water in the system?
Fried the pump on my Boxxer 421....How do I remove clutch from pump?
- Thread starter Blue Monarch
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Is there water in the system?
Charlie Lyman
Supportive Member
Hook it up to the hose and open the wand up on the other end.
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Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
I give up. Who wants to buy a shitty biz in Lincoln?
Desk Jockey
Member
Still no pressure? Did you call Charlie? 208-855-5715
curt johnson
Member
Take the 3/4 lug nut with a Phillips screwdriver and torque the flux valve against the crank. If she has play then bleed the adaptor 1/8 inch until it fills with water. You'll need a 18mm vice grip to spin her loose all the way, plug in the Electrolux and chip it 4 times. Then open 14th Keystone Light.
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
i just whacked the shit out of it with a sledge......then had the 14th.
Charlie Lyman
Supportive Member
I gotta ask the obvious questions: did running the old one dry cause it to fry? If so, then there is a water supply problem.
Are the inlet and out hoses hooked in the right spot?
And make sure the clutch is clicking when you turn it on, that way you know it's getting water.
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Are the inlet and out hoses hooked in the right spot?
And make sure the clutch is clicking when you turn it on, that way you know it's getting water.
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GeneMiller
Member
Hook the water line up. Disconnect the inlet water line to the pump. Turn on the water slowly and water should come out. If it doesn't work back until you find water. The water should flow pretty fast. Let it drain and make sure your water box is properly filling. If it does hook up the pump and disconnect plug on the oposite side. again with water on it should flow. All this is before you start it. If you have water on both side the pump has water and you should be fine. If your inlet for the garden hose has a screen at the truck check for desbri. I don't understand a pump not being protected by a low pressure switch. You could add one if your so inclined.
I didn't proof read but it sounded correct as I was typing it.
Sort on time
Gene
I didn't proof read but it sounded correct as I was typing it.
Sort on time
Gene
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
Up and running! Will report more later....
GeneMiller
Member
If you run your garden hose straight to the pump you have to filter it. Probably at least 80 mesh, 100 would be better. Crap from the hose, sand and other stuff will kill the pump
gene
gene
dgardner
Moderator
Great news!
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
I have to fix one of these on Tuesday would like to know the fix.
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
On a boxxer?
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Yes sir a 421 that we just installed a new 23 hp motor and ordered a seal kit and temp relief for it as well.
Charlie Lyman
Supportive Member
What ended up being the problem with the pressure?
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dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
That's what I have been waiting for.
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
I'm no help on rebuilding a pump. Mine was toast cuz it lost oil. Replaced the whole pump. If you need to do that....it's fresh in my head. Feel free to give me a buzz.
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
The pressure problem on the new pump appeared to be a priming issue. I had to hook the garden hose directly to the pump and run some water through it. After that, she purred like a kitten.
Good to hear Dirk! Also props to Charlie and all the guys who talked you through it. Also glad to hear you got over the anal bleeding from Jon Don. Over charging you 300 bucks. But they pay for Banner ads here so they have Mikeys blessing . Back in the day Mikey wud have been crawling up there ass. He would have had three warnings by now from Evan. LMFAO. Its all about that Paper Baby!!
Waldo
Waldo
Desk Jockey
Member
Cut your hair hippie!
Becker
Member
Fresh in his head as he looks around at all the dead soldiers. How the hell did I do it?
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
Thank you for all the help gentlemen! I would have had to punt on this install without the help. Three things specifically helped me out...
1. The mentioning of the set screws (the diagram in my boxxer manual doesn't show them)
2. Recommending a gear puller. JonDon said the clutch would pull right off after taking set screws out. Also said NOT to use a gear puller. Nonsense.....no way was that clutch coming off without the $15 puller from harbor freight.
3. Recommending hooking pressurized water directly to the pump. The pump wouldn't prime until I ran water through it with a garden hose. After that, she fired right up and ran like a champ!
A copy of my pump diagram....you can see that it shows where screws may be, but none shown in the exploded view......
View attachment 4386
1. The mentioning of the set screws (the diagram in my boxxer manual doesn't show them)
2. Recommending a gear puller. JonDon said the clutch would pull right off after taking set screws out. Also said NOT to use a gear puller. Nonsense.....no way was that clutch coming off without the $15 puller from harbor freight.
3. Recommending hooking pressurized water directly to the pump. The pump wouldn't prime until I ran water through it with a garden hose. After that, she fired right up and ran like a champ!
A copy of my pump diagram....you can see that it shows where screws may be, but none shown in the exploded view......
View attachment 4386
dgardner
Moderator
Dirk, you may want to grab the latest manual (Rev 2, May 31, 2013). It does show the setscrews:
http://www.hydramaster.com/Portals/0/Manuals/man182-065.pdf
http://www.hydramaster.com/Portals/0/Manuals/man182-065.pdf
Desk Jockey
Member
You didn't mention me? #4. Moral support from the Doc. It's ok be honest, that's really what got you through this.
LOL
Seriously we have some great minds here and it sure is nice that not only are they knowledgeable but very very helpful. You guys are the best!
LOL
Seriously we have some great minds here and it sure is nice that not only are they knowledgeable but very very helpful. You guys are the best!
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
Don't turn this into a circle jerk Chavez!
Desk Jockey
Member
Sorry!
Umm but would I be first?
Umm but would I be first?
Just imagine if jon don charged Mikey double for the price of a pump and they did not have a banner ad here. BOY wud he be having fun here. Buying a banner ad buys you protection. DOES Mikey care about the grass root cleaner anymore? TOO bad John G is too broke to buy a banner ad. MIKEY would br promoting Tip Blooming all day long. LMFAO! !!!
Golden Boy
Golden Boy
dgardner
Moderator
Waldo, I'm not saying you're a pessimist, but I bet you look both ways before crossing a one way street....
Desk Jockey
Member
He has to, the hair gets in the way. 
Cut your hair hippie!
Cut your hair hippie!
Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
Just an update in case someone reads this in the future.....
Use lock washers and some "medium" thread lock when re-attaching pump to unit. Mine came with regular washers and I assume they used thread lock when the machine was originally built.
I didn't do this when putting the pump back on originally, and the bastard came loose from vibration a couple times one day. What a site!
Use lock washers and some "medium" thread lock when re-attaching pump to unit. Mine came with regular washers and I assume they used thread lock when the machine was originally built.
I didn't do this when putting the pump back on originally, and the bastard came loose from vibration a couple times one day. What a site!
