Greasy dining room

[Yellowstone Custodial Manager]

I recently tried Bio Break w citrus Solv as a prespray and rinsed with Flex Ice. It worked much better than my current Green Balance products. My problem is my company will not approve the Bio Break and Flex due to environmental regulations as we are in Yellowstone National Park. My question is can i achieve similar results with either Procyon Plus or Procyon extreme?

 

[hogjowl]

No

 

[Yellowstone Custodial Manager]

No

Would Procyon still be better then Green Balance. Because if not I am probably stuck with Green Balance and i do not like it at all!

 

[FB19087]

Is grease eraser on the ok list?

 

[Loren Egland]

Steam Way International is near you in Jackson Wyoming. They can help you out with quality chemicals to fit your needs. Their phone number is (800) HiSteam

 

[Yellowstone Custodial Manager]

Is grease eraser on the ok list?

Probably not! They tend to only sign off on products that are green seal approved. Lots of hoops and red tape to jump though out here.

 

[Yellowstone Custodial Manager]

Steam Way International is near you in Jackson Wyoming. They can help you out with quality chemicals to fit your needs. Their phone number is (800) HiSteam

Thanks, I am pretty happy with my current vendor at this time. Just gathering thoughts and opinions on the Procyon products.

 

[Jim Williams]

If you add a ton of citrus solve and prescrub you might get it looking acceptable, but you really need some high powered stuff for those situations.

 

[Cleanworks]

I use procyon as my go to for residential and for some commercial. Rather than making your chemical do all the work, it's better to add some agitation like a crb. I use procyon extreme as my prespray and rinse with procyon plus powder. Gives me a great one-two punch and the pH is near neutral when I finish.

 

[Loren Egland]

Maybe look at equipment that produces super high temperatures at high solution flow rates to remove the oily soils.

 

[Jimmy L]

Pour out that green balance crap and fill the container with PROCHEM ULTRA PAK EXTREME.. : )

 

[Hack Attack]

I tried green balance on a slightly worse than average residential nylon... I changed presprays halfway through the job

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Chemistry
Heat
Agitation
Time
Carpet cleaning 101...
If you decrease one, you MUST increase one or all 3 of the others....
In your case, an inferior product calls for a super charge of the other 3....

 

[Andy]

Thanks, I am pretty happy with my current vendor at this time.

If they want to keep you happy they should be trying to help you solve your problem. Legend Brands has a line of Green Certified cleaners, haven't tried them just another line. Find out the principle guidelines you need in a cleaner. Green certified doesn't mean squat they may be good for the environment but some of the solvents used are not necessarily good for you. Grease Eraser mentioned by Fred is a really good product and doesn't contain butyl and other solvents that are actually bad for YOU. Chemeister's just don't want to spend their money on the certifications.

 

[hogjowl]

He said he was happy
Leave him alone ... Ricky G Jr

 

[Hack Attack]

Impact from Benefect isn't a bad prespray, I haven't used it in a situation like that though

pick the proper tool (or chem) for the job

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

Rotary with a brush head....

 

[Yellowstone Custodial Manager]

If they want to keep you happy they should be trying to help you solve your problem. Legend Brands has a line of Green Certified cleaners, haven't tried them just another line. Find out the principle guidelines you need in a cleaner. Green certified doesn't mean squat they may be good for the environment but some of the solvents used are not necessarily good for you. Grease Eraser mentioned by Fred is a really good product and doesn't contain butyl and other solvents that are actually bad for YOU. Chemeister's just don't want to spend their money on the certifications.

They are keeping me happy. They gave me samples of the bio break and flex ice. They worked great but my company is very hesitant to approve them. Vendor is giving test samples of Procyon to test next. I am also bringing in a crb for agitation so that should help.

 

[Hack Attack]

They are keeping me happy. They gave me samples of the bio break and flex ice. They worked great but my company is very hesitant to approve them. Vendor is giving test samples of Procyon to test next. I am also bringing in a crb for agitation so that should help.

@Mikey P can you please explain saponification here

 

[Mikey P]

No

way

 

[Cleanworks]

way

how about emulsification?

 

[Hack Attack]

use your unconscious knowledge

 

[Dolly Llama]

Will there be any copyright infringement when Mike adds that to IICRC standards?


Did anyone suggest to that hED janitor dude to roto scrub first?
instead of a poor scrubbing substitute CRB?


..L.T.A.

 

[Old Coastie]

Jesse, can you not recover the slops and dispose of them in an RV dumping tank, or outside the park boundaries?

 

[bob vawter]

That's MY word !!!

 

[Newman]

Rent a Cimex for a test, It will improve the results of any pre conditioner used exponentially.

Then management will authorize purchase of one when they see what you have done.

 

[Yellowstone Custodial Manager]

Jesse, can you not recover the slops and dispose of them in an RV dumping tank, or outside the park boundaries?

Old, Its not so much about the dumping as we dump in sanitary sewers like everyone else. I just have problems getting effective cleaners approved unless the have the green seal approval. Between corporate and government it is always a challenge.

 

[Steve Lawrence]

I think if you cleaned the carpets more often you wouldn't need to nuke them.