TimM
Supportive Member
just wear your favorite jeans for 10 years then throw them in the washer after 10 years of abuse, they can not clean a carpet for 10 years and even think that it will look somewhat decent after cleaning.
Has anyone ever cleaned the entrances at a Walmart?
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Kellie Hiler
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I would CRB it like crazy, vacuum the crap out of it, spray it with a good high PH prespray and agitate with a brush head, then extract with a Zipper and speed dry it. Then CRB it again and pad cap it.
But first I would let them know that it's not going to look new...that it will likely take more than one or two cleanings...kinda like peeling layers off an onion. If they are not willing to pay me to clean it a few times to restore it then I wouldn't do it. It's likely ruined already. Don't take ownership of their screw up.
Make sure their expectations are the same as yours!
But first I would let them know that it's not going to look new...that it will likely take more than one or two cleanings...kinda like peeling layers off an onion. If they are not willing to pay me to clean it a few times to restore it then I wouldn't do it. It's likely ruined already. Don't take ownership of their screw up.
Make sure their expectations are the same as yours!
Kellie Hiler
Member
Give me a shout 470-262-6016.....I would love to join you on this job!
Kellie Hiler
Member
In fact...I will even bring the cleaning products. Got a few of TCS labeled things I'm dying to try firsthand!
I'm gonna do this job at 8:45 wednesday night This week the 29th. You're welcome to join
Mikey P
Administrator
Kellie can you bring a Cimex?
Mikey P
Administrator
Kellie hit on a very important point.
Positively tell them how this will play out and after your first round of cleaning the area, there is a 98% chance of wicking (watch their eyes when you explain what that means, if they look over your shoulder or cut you off mid sentence, plan on explaining it again after it happens and they are now under pressure from above, they'll pay attention this time) and you'll need a second visit to finish the peeling of the onion as Kellie so perfectly put it.
Let them know before you show up that you'll need two visit.
If you luck out and don't, than you're the hero
Positively tell them how this will play out and after your first round of cleaning the area, there is a 98% chance of wicking (watch their eyes when you explain what that means, if they look over your shoulder or cut you off mid sentence, plan on explaining it again after it happens and they are now under pressure from above, they'll pay attention this time) and you'll need a second visit to finish the peeling of the onion as Kellie so perfectly put it.
Let them know before you show up that you'll need two visit.
If you luck out and don't, than you're the hero
The first reply i gave them was a question. "What are you expecting from my cleaning?" Then we focused on the drink spills and fresh spots that they wanted removed. They are expecting the heavy traffic to stay there.
I'll go and take a pic of the other side to show u the spills that they want gone
I'll go and take a pic of the other side to show u the spills that they want gone
Mikey P
Administrator
Matt, I'm not trying to be insulting here but if you have done much commercial, one, you wouldn't have started this thread and two, you'd already own a Cimex or OP unit by now..
Mikey P
Administrator
If I'm over advising, I'll gladly back off at this time.
Mikey P
Administrator
Incorrect, it's used as part/day two of a true restoration process.
Day one, dry and wet flushing of the carpet.
Day two, polishing of the dry carpet.
Day one, dry and wet flushing of the carpet.
Day two, polishing of the dry carpet.
I agree fully. That's why I was planning on getting some absorbent pads for my 175 if the HWE didn't do the job.
But I've been told several times on this thread to ditch the HWE and go buy a cimdx by itself. That's why I made the point of it not being made for restoration by itself
I've done a high number of commercial jobs. My inexperience is on maintaining it...or selling the maintenance plan. The only calls I get on commercial is about once every 1 1/2 years to 2 years, when it's heavily soiled. I try and try to advise my customers to do it more periodically and I never get a bite. The only commercial I do several times is a restaurant every 2months. All the other office complexes and factories is that long time span.
So to answer your post, that's why I never invested in a cimdx or got a box of OP pads. It was always too far gone and needed flushed out. And yes, I follow up a day and week later to check on any wicking.
I know I'm new here, but I'm very knowledgeable on HWE commercial the right way. Yes it's very inneficiant to fully depend on HWE, but the one thing that always causes wicking and browning is moving that wand too fast and not doing enough dry passes.
Sorry for jibberjabbering on it, I just felt it was needed to explain the reason for my process that I plan on doing this wednesday
Mikey P
Administrator
Most commercial client either dont have the time or the funds for the two step restoration process
So they chose to skip the wash and go straight to the wax job..
So they chose to skip the wash and go straight to the wax job..
But yes, I'm still prepared to purchase a cimex if I don't like my results.
I had such good results with a red pad on pre scrubbing a factory carpet a couple weeks ago, that I'm gonna bump it up to a green pad prescrubbing this wednesday at walmart.
I have a brush also, if I don't like the green pad
I'll be prevaccing with my Royal about an hour before I start so I'll show up around 8pm before I crank up the tm at 9
I had such good results with a red pad on pre scrubbing a factory carpet a couple weeks ago, that I'm gonna bump it up to a green pad prescrubbing this wednesday at walmart.
I have a brush also, if I don't like the green pad
I'll be prevaccing with my Royal about an hour before I start so I'll show up around 8pm before I crank up the tm at 9
I wonder why they never include maintaining their floors in their yearly budget
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Matt most are just giving their wisdom from scenarios we have encountered that fit closely to yours.
If you get as much dry soil out as possible, hit it a flex type product, flush and dry pass several times, followed by a good encapsulate and quick dry, you should be ok.
Worse that could happen is that you would need to encapsulate one more time the day after.
This ain't rocket science, we are just janitors with gasoline motors.
If you get as much dry soil out as possible, hit it a flex type product, flush and dry pass several times, followed by a good encapsulate and quick dry, you should be ok.
Worse that could happen is that you would need to encapsulate one more time the day after.
This ain't rocket science, we are just janitors with gasoline motors.
Over thinking this. Just prespray and rinse. No promise of any kind on removing the gum. 1/2 an hour with long strokes. No vacuuming..........no post bonnet.......no fans...........no cimex BS.
Jeez what a bunch of idiots!
Jeez what a bunch of idiots!
Mikey P
Administrator
Because it is not a cellulose fiber. The soil is acidic and if he rinses well then Ph is brought down. Agree with encapsulant or at least encapsulant the next day. Or just do a small test area.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Just hurry up and do the job already so we can criticize you some more
Nampa Carpet Cleaning
Member
That job is a hassle. I don't take it.
Don't worry, when I show my work, ya'll are gonna have fun ganging up on me, lol
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
I don't enjoy telling people I am trying to help, I told you so.
So please succeed.
So please succeed.
hogjowl
Idiot™
It
Why does she let him on the computer on the weekends?
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Please understand the goal: They need the carpet to LOOK CLEAN.
They could care less about how much dirt and debris you remove.
They could care less about how much dirt and debris you remove.
Mikey P
Administrator
Aint that the truth.
