Have I gone mad with SEO keywords?

B&BGaryC

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I know everybody says they don't work, but juiced up my DJ site with some keywords and my page rank boosted. I just did some haphazard keywords but it worked. I decided to take a more strict approach and isolate any term they might search for that is relevant to my carpet cleaning page.

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This is just a partial list, when done it should be twice this long... Then I thought, what if I get my wrist slapped for this?
 

Royal Man

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Gary,

You are pissing in the wind.

Keywords have to match content and you might get spanked for keyword stuffing. Having that many keywords just waters down the value of each one.

I would be a better use of your time to work on your Places listing and get some online reviews.

You only have 1 review:lol:
 

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omg, yes you have!

Any more then about ten, pointless.

Find ways to work SOME of them into your website text.
 

B&BGaryC

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Other than reviews what can you do to optimize google places? We at one time had 7 google places pages. Our company is listed under 4 different addresses, 4 different numbers, 3 different websites, two of which are redirects to the same site. I took control of them and got around to deleting them until we just had two, one listing for disaster restoration and one for carpet cleaning, then they kept coming back from the dead. I cannot get a handle on the google places for B&B. No matter what I do. I know having all those listings is hurting, but I can't get rid of them.

I don't have those keywords in my content but my content is relevant to those keywords.

Another problem I am having with google places. When setting up my DJ business I was looking for relevent categories. I was kinda in a hurry and thought in addition to DJ, wedding DJ etc, I had listed myself as both a Karaoke DJ and a Bar DJ. Nope. Listed myself as a Karaoke Bar. I have deleted it and deleted it but it won't go away. Every time I get it nixed in an update it re-appears. I get the vast majority of my hits from people looking for local bars. Way more than are looking for DJs. Google will not let it go no matter how many times I delete it and submit it for update it is always there. I am listed first as a Karaoke bar, and then as a DJ.
 

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This is what I added to my DJ page before it jumped rank. Perhaps it did it in spite of my keyword spam:

Wedding, Music, DJ, Disc, Jockey, Billings, Montana, MT, Wyoming, North, Dakota, Parties, videographer, Red Lodge, prom, school dances, wedding dj, dj for wedding, wedding music, photographer, video slide show, WEDDING DJ COST, billings wedding dj, mobile dj, dj for wedding, dj services, professional dj\'s, wedding disc jockey, dj\'s for hire, mobile disc jockey service, dj company, We\'re The Bomb, \We\'re the Bomb\, Just. Dial. Awesome., 406.Awesome, Freakin, Freakin\', Freaking, Freakin Awesome, Freakin\' Awesome, Freaking Awesome, Freakin\' Awesome Incorporated, Awesome, Awesome DJ, live music, Powel, lovell, sheridan, roundup, best wedding dj, wedding dj prices, christmas party dj, WEDDING DJ BILLINGS MT, Billings Wedding DJs,Wedding DJ Billings,Billings Wedding DJ,Wedding DJs Billings,Wedding DJs in Billings,Wedding DJ in Billings.

I will try to trim it down significantly.
 

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For Places. Have just 1 listing, have the right categories and get real reviews and one-way backlinks.
 

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What is a one way backlink?

Also, your advice about me asking how to do something is that I should do it. Does that seem kind of lame to you? I've tried to classify it as the right category 20 times and every time some stupid F-ing Google bot restores the incorrect category.
 

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B&BGaryC said:
What is a one way backlink?

Also, your advice about me asking how to do something is that I should do it. Does that seem kind of lame to you? I've tried to classify it as the right category 20 times and every time some stupid F-ing Google bot restores the incorrect category.

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Here is an explanation copy/pasted

Ways to Build Backlinks

Even if plenty of backlinks come to your site the natural way, additional quality backlinks are always welcome and the time you spend building them is not wasted. Among the acceptable ways of link building are getting listed in directories, posting in forums, blogs and article directories. The unacceptable ways include inter-linking (linking from one site to another site, which is owned by the same owner or exists mainly for the purpose to be a link farm), linking to spam sites or sites that host any kind of illegal content, purchasing links in bulk, linking to link farms, etc.

The first step in building backlinks is to find the places from which you can get quality backlinks. A valuable assistant in this process is the Backlink Builder tool. When you enter the keywords of your choice, the Backlink Builder tool gives you a list of sites where you can post an article, message, posting, or simply a backlink to your site. After you have the list of potential backlink partners, it is up to you to visit each of the sites and post your content with the backlink to your site in it.

You might wonder why sites as those, listed by the Backlink Builder tool provide such a precious asset as backlinks for free. The answer is simple – they need content for their site. When you post an article, or submit a link to your site, you do not get paid for this. You provide them for free with something they need – content – and in return they also provide you for free with something you need – quality backlinks. It is a free trade, as long as the sites you post your content or links are respected and you don't post fake links or content.
Getting Listed in Directories

If you are serious about your Web presence, getting listed in directories like DMOZ and Yahoo is a must – not only because this is a way to get some quality backlinks for free, but also because this way you are easily noticed by both search engines and potential visitors. Generally inclusion in search directories is free but the drawback is that sometimes you have to wait a couple of months before you get listed in the categories of your choice.
Forums and Article Directories

Generally search engines index forums so posting in forums and blogs is also a way to get quality backlinks with the anchor text you want. If the forum or blog is a respected one, a backlink is valuable. However, in some cases the forum or blog administrator can edit your post, or even delete it if it does not fit into the forum or blog policy. Also, sometimes administrators do not allow links in posts, unless they are relevant ones. In some rare cases (which are more an exception than a rule) the owner of a forum or a blog would have banned search engines from indexing it and in this case posting backlinks there is pointless.

While forum postings can be short and do not require much effort, submitting articles to directories can be more time-consuming because generally articles are longer than posts and need careful thinking while writing them. But it is also worth and it is not so difficult to do.
Content Exchange and Affiliate Programs

Content exchange and affiliate programs are similar to the previous method of getting quality backlinks. For instance, you can offer to interested sites RSS feeds for free. When the other site publishes your RSS feed, you will get a backlink to your site and potentially a lot of visitors, who will come to your site for more details about the headline and the abstract they read on the other site.

Affiliate programs are also good for getting more visitors (and buyers) and for building quality backlinks but they tend to be an expensive way because generally the affiliate commission is in the range of 10 to 30 %. But if you have an affiliate program anyway, why not use it to get some more quality backlinks?
News Announcements and Press Releases

Although this is hardly an everyday way to build backlinks, it is an approach that gives good results, if handled properly. There are many sites (for instance, here is a list of some of them) that publish for free or for a fee news announcements and press releases. A professionally written press release about an important event can bring you many, many visitors and the backlink from a respected site to yours is a good boost to your SEO efforts. The tricky part is that you cannot release press releases if there is nothing newsworthy. That is why we say that news announcements and press releases are not a commodity way to build backlinks.
Backlink Building Practices to Avoid

One of the practices that is to be avoided is link exchange. There are many programs, which offer to barter links. The principle is simple – you put a link to a site, they put a backlink to your site. There are a couple of important things to consider with link exchange programs. First, take care about the ratio between outbound and inbound links. If your outbound links are times your inbound, this is bad. Second (and more important) is the risk that your link exchange partners are link farms. If this is the case, you could even be banned from search engines, so it is too risky to indulge in link exchange programs.

Linking to suspicious places is something else that you must avoid. While it is true that search engines do not punish you if you have backlinks from such places because it is supposed that you have no control over what bad guys link to, if you enter a link exchange program with the so called bad neighbors and you link to them, this can be disastrous to your SEO efforts. For more details about bad neighbors, check the Bad Neighborhood article. Also, beware of getting tons of links in a short period of time because this still looks artificial and suspicious.
 

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