Heat..... How important is it?

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So I am a huge fan of heat. I try never to do jobs cold. Still some tell me that cold water works almost as well and there is precious little difference.

I run a heated portable extractor. A Nautilus MX3-500H and I have recently purchased this bad boy.

http://www.jetwave.com.au/file/Jetwave-Vulcan-Vertical-Hot-Box-Product-Sheet.pdf

So basically now I have access to both electric (which is very reasonable) and fuel fired heat sources. I find the electric heat good; very good - but - the diesel is in another league. It just eats soap and shit. The Hydroforce becomes a Laser Beam at 500PSI and 230F / 110C against spots like food, spew and dog shit. All manner of organics just blast into emulsion.

Rinsing is very effective with both of my carpet tools cutting through the soil load and drying is literally almost instant.

Lets talk heat. My setup is good for 302F / 150C but at that level I just get dry steam out the tool :rockon:.

Heater is good for 25L/m / 6.6Gal/m but will trigger at just 3L/m / .8Gal/m. Triggers by flow not pressure.
 
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Love your post just because I'm not the only one posting...
 
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So I am a huge fan of heat. I try never to do jobs cold. Still some tell me that cold water works almost as well and there is precious little difference.

I run a heated portable extractor. A Nautilus MX3-500H and I have recently purchased this bad boy.

http://www.jetwave.com.au/file/Jetwave-Vulcan-Vertical-Hot-Box-Product-Sheet.pdf

So basically now I have access to both electric (which is very reasonable) and fuel fired heat sources. I find the electric heat good; very good - but - the diesel is in another league. It just eats soap and shit. The Hydroforce becomes a Laser Beam at 500PSI and 230F / 100C against spots like food, spew and dog shit. All manner of organics just blast into emulsion.

Rinsing is very effective with both of my carpet tools cutting through the soil load and drying is literally almost instant.

Lets talk heat. My setup is good for 302F / 150C but at that level I just get dry steam out the tool :rockon:.

Heater is good for 25L/m / 6.6Gal/m but will trigger at just 3L/m / .8Gal/m. Triggers by flow not pressure.
I love you already because of your Bonser posts...plus your cursed...
 

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So I am a huge fan of heat. I try never to do jobs cold. Still some tell me that cold water works almost as well and there is precious little difference.

I run a heated portable extractor. A Nautilus MX3-500H and I have recently purchased this bad boy.

http://www.jetwave.com.au/file/Jetwave-Vulcan-Vertical-Hot-Box-Product-Sheet.pdf

So basically now I have access to both electric (which is very reasonable) and fuel fired heat sources. I find the electric heat good; very good - but - the diesel is in another league. It just eats soap and shit. The Hydroforce becomes a Laser Beam at 500PSI and 230F / 100C against spots like food, spew and dog shit. All manner of organics just blast into emulsion.

Rinsing is very effective with both of my carpet tools cutting through the soil load and drying is literally almost instant.

Lets talk heat. My setup is good for 302F / 150C but at that level I just get dry steam out the tool :rockon:.

Heater is good for 25L/m / 6.6Gal/m but will trigger at just 3L/m / .8Gal/m. Triggers by flow not pressure.
What chemicals are you running???
 

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You got the heat...do you have the dwell time ? Do you have the agitation? Do you have the right cleaning agent...
 
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Last post of the night...big hunt tomorrow....might even get some walrus tusk....
 
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I love your chain letter replies...... :stir:

I do agitate, mostly other respondents but also the carpets. I pretty much always use an RJE but have as you said recently purchased a duplex wand. This does mean scrubbing first. The portable probably can't quite push enough water to do the pressure blast most of you TM guys can. Respect there.

Does clean remarkably well though. Well beyond anything typically portable.
 

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With a portable to boot...(broke my last commitment...but ah was done on my phone...this kept getting better...
 
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So my experience has shown me ( as is logic) why not hit is with every thing you got BUT depend on the application and as a precatinry measure chemical meter at the highest rate when acid (but according to some of these ( goobers...I always use. Yet to see a persuasive argument aggainst...

signed ( i will find a better way to tag him...fred my teeth are bigger than his.... choose youth.....
 
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I know a porty.

But its worse.... I turn up at jobs in a taxi van.

It's a funny old world.
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So my experience has shown me ( as is logic) why not hit is with every thing you got BUT depend on the application and as a precatinry measure chemical meter at the highest rate when acid (but according to some of these ( goobers...I always use. Yet to see a persuasive argument aggainst...

signed ( i will find a better way to tag him...fred my teeth are bigger than his.... choose youth.....
You are completely crazy; but I dig it... :rockon:
 
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I know a porty.

But its worse.... I turn up at jobs in a taxi van.

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GeeeAus, I respect you more than I respect any of the successful old guys on here, just because of the situation you're in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it eye problems that cause you to hire a taxi to take you to jobs? And aren't you the one that started with just a Rug Dr also? I've seen your work and I'm astonished at how well you clean carpet with what you started out with. Keep up the awesome work and I love the pictures of your work that you've showed us over the years. It looks awesome bro
 

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Grant is the person who got me ( and the rest of the industry) to blow the dust off our RV BrushHeads and give them a second try.

Proving once again the heat is the thinnest of slivers over the pie. So easily replaced by more aggitative, or stronger chem or more dwell time.


It's the lazy man's dessert.
 

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GeeeAus, I respect you more than I respect any of the successful old guys on here, just because of the situation you're in. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it eye problems that cause you to hire a taxi to take you to jobs? And aren't you the one that started with just a Rug Dr also? I've seen your work and I'm astonished at how well you clean carpet with what you started out with. Keep up the awesome work and I love the pictures of your work that you've showed us over the years. It looks awesome bro
Yeah I'm legally blind. The Aussie government says no driving. So I outsourced. I'm an albino, I have a genetic defect that means I lack the genes that tell my body how to make certain chemicals and coloured tissues. This impacts my vision, as well as my hair and skin. My body doesn't make melanin so the sun is very dangerous to me. I cannot tan, I just get sunburn so badly it's like radiation burns.

So I need to work indoors. I worked as a system admin and tech for 19 years. I just wanted a change. The wife didn't like it so much. But without her I just focus.
 

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Seeing the same stuff as a system admin for 19years had to get boring. That's the good thing about our industry. Every day we're in a different atmosphere with different tasks, dealing with different people, which makes our job enjoyable. I'm sure that's what you've told the wife to help her understand
 
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She left. It's just me now. Me and the hardware and the jobs and the taxi van.

Which.... I cleaned today for the cab company. Got one cab a week for the next 5 weeks. Nice little regular.
That's awesome that you've worked out a deal like that with the cab company.
 
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I wonder how long the pump will last with that heat some units aren't set up for high heat very nice to have the heat but only time will tell. My EDIC has a outside the unit heat and works okay as long as I change to smaller jets on the wand. jz.
 

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I wonder how long the pump will last with that heat some units aren't set up for high heat very nice to have the heat but only time will tell. My EDIC has a outside the unit heat and works okay as long as I change to smaller jets on the wand. jz.
You make a great point.

the pump is on the cold side it's a - push - system. A garden hose fills the 12 Gal tank on the extractor. A short hose connects the extractor's solution QD coupler to the burner - input. The a longer hose come from the burner's - output - to my tools. The burner lights instantly.
 

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That was one of my design goals. Must be a push system.
 

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There's a team of 8 drivers. 4 day shift and 4 night. They just charge whatever the metre is. But the stop the metre for loading and unloading which is great that's a HUGE saving. Average cost is $9 each way, $18 round trip.

Average ticket total is $200. so just under 10%
 
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If you could place the heated unit at the front outside connection and just have the heat only run from the outside hose to the wand your pump would last much longer as long as the heat is hot enough. jz.
 
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If you could place the heated unit at the front outside connection and just have the heat only run from the outside hose to the wand your pump would last much longer as long as the heat is hot enough. jz.
You got it in 1. Thats exactly what I do.

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Grant is the person who got me ( and the rest of the industry) to blow the dust off our RV BrushHeads and give them a second try.

Proving once again the heat is the thinnest of slivers over the pie. So easily replaced by more aggitative, or stronger chem or more dwell time.


It's the lazy man's dessert.
And passion...
 

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