HWE vs Encap

[Captain America]

I don't believe in encamping but I bet rick the encap man has a pretty large clientele and
His crew cleans a lot of carpet.....
For huge commercial jobs there is at least A 30 minute setup and 30 minute breakdown for HWE
Ii believe for most guys about 3-4 hours of straight wanding will wear anyone out....
The zipper or rx 20 can go a little longer without exhausting yourself...
However I bet you could do this encap stuff all day...

 

[Desk Jockey]

However I bet you could do this encap stuff all day...

Don't let anyone fool you, its still work. You may not be as tired as wanding but you'll still be tired. I had three tech's cleaning just over 15,000sq/ft yesterday at a commercial setting. They spent a good part of the day cleaning and while they didn't come in dragging, I'm sure they slept well.

 

[Captain America]

I believe this is the hardest to easiest labor for HWE
1. Wand wo glide
2. Wand with glide
3. Rotary- rx20....
4. Zipper
Don't know how the encap compare to these but if there is some scrubbing action with brush it may actually be more labor than the rx 20 w glides or zipper????

 

[Desk Jockey]

it may actually be more labor than the rx 20 w glides or zipper

It not as bad as a 175 but its not effortless. Its still work, you just don't get winded like you might cleaning for hours on end with a wand but you still know you're working.

 

[Captain America]

I am guessing the encap shampoo is liquid and costs more per 1000 sq ft to cleen
Than HWE with powder chem...
Also that encap buffer is a pricey if I am correct so you are still out some pesos on the cleaning process....
15000 sq ft of carpet is huge...
The most I did in one day was 7-8000 sq ft with one truckmount one helper and office cubicles...
Totally wore me out...I believe I used a wand and zipper combo..I did all the wanding...
I would say about 150o sq ft per hour on this job..
Zipper could probably do 2000-2500 sq ft per hour on wide open spaces.....

 

[Desk Jockey]

We buy in case lots and it comes out to about a $1.01 per mixed gallon
Coverage depends on the situation, 500-1000sq/ft?
.002 cent at 500sq/ft, .001 cent at 1000sq/ft

We have (7) Cimex's, we can cut through commercial spaces if needed. In tight cubes 7-800 sq/ft an hour, in wide open 2500-3000sq/ft an hour.

 

[encapman]

I am guessing the encap shampoo is liquid and costs more per 1000 sq ft to cleen
Than HWE with powder chem...
Also that encap buffer is a pricey if I am correct so you are still out some pesos on the cleaning process.....

A new Cimex will set you back a little under 3 grand. In fact we have them on sale right now. They last for years and years, so the machine outlay amortizes at a very low rate!
http://www.excellent-supply.com/Cim...to-a-qualifying-commercial-address_p_106.html

Here's how the chemical cost breaks down. As you can see, it's very cost effective!

 

[encapman]

To put this into real numbers... If I'm charging 15 cents per sq ft, and my chemical cost is 3/10ths of a cent per sq ft, I'll still have 14.7 cents leftover from the 15 cents that I've charged. I can live with that.

 

[Desk Jockey]

A new Cimex will set you back a little under 3 grand. In fact we have them on sale right now.

Best purchase you'll ever make other than WDR equipment. The Cimex also works great for shower feeding precondition on trashed carpets prior to HWE.

 

[Captain America]

Sounds like about the same amount of labor minus the setup and tear down of a truckmount....
You still got to lift that thing I bet it's 50 lbs or more.....so you may strain some backs...I know I had to be careful with my rx20.....
I believe the zipper would keep up with the encap....on wide open areas........
I used to clean a church with long halls 4-5000 sq ft and could clean with a wand in 2.5 truckmount hours...
It was a real workout however....

 

[Desk Jockey]

You still got to lift that thing I bet it's 50 lbs or more.....so you may strain some backs

Its a two man or a ramp deal.

I've lifted it and its not so much the weight but how awkward it is. If you don't drain the tank you'll dump encap solution on yourself.

BUT that leg is now cleaner than if I had showered. Really!

 

[Shane Deubell]

The only downside to encap is how to hide all the fat profits from the govt .

Ohhh wait thats what butler is for.

 

[Shane Deubell]

Sounds like about the same amount of labor minus the setup and tear down of a truckmount....
You still got to lift that thing I bet it's 50 lbs or more.....so you may strain some backs...I know I had to be careful with my rx20.....
I believe the zipper would keep up with the encap....on wide open areas........
I used to clean a church with long halls 4-5000 sq ft and could clean with a wand in 2.5 truckmount hours...
It was a real workout however....

Maybe on 1 job a month but over 100's of jobs its not even close.
Encap is going to bring in way more profits over the long term.

We do both.