Mikey P
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I'll take pics of my 4 year old machine
Need convincing that OP/ VLM works?
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Mikey P
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Vlm by definition means under 3 hour dry times.
Those things pretty much guarantee 36 hours of suffering.
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Noope!@@ I use less h2o. Who says you need to hold the trigger. Jeesh!!!!
Let the agitation do it's thing!
Low moisture on thick cut pile!!
Wheels turning?, light bulb moment?
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Living The Dream
Member
More hot water and steam even better.
Living The Dream
Member
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Ever-Fresh
Member
So, if you used one of these power units, how long could you run a Pad Machine on one charge? It could be a viable option in situations where power has been shut off.
Rob Grady
Member
? People actually trust that guy in their homes?
Ever-Fresh
Member
I get it! He does not "trust" encapsulation.
I used to clean a very busy Mexican Restaurant monthly, which in some places it was so black with grease that you did not know the color of the carpet. I usually OP'd and sprayed heavy and blew through a lot of pads, but is always came out. I purchased a CRB and wanted to test straight encap. I was astonished at how well it removed the grease, but I had to really load up on moisture and several passes to get the black areas out. I expected to have to come back to "fix" the problem the next day, but I was utterly surprised that it looked and felt great! I repeated it the next month, noting that resoiling was a bit faster than when I used pads. I used a CRB and repeated it the next month and it started resoiling faster than the first time around. I was astonished at how well encapsulation lived up to the hype, and it exceeded what I expected of it, for a greasy restaurant is not what it claims to work on. I returned to padding, and flushed it with HWE once a year as padcapping started to fail and resoil quickly in about 10 months. Flushing it with HWE meant that I had to return in the next few days to eliminate the streaks and wick-backs with Encap and Pads.
Kenny Hayes
Member
Son of a Buck, the unseen Wheeler Brother
There you have it in a #nutshell!
There you have it in a #nutshell!
Kenny Hayes
Member
I hear Tide works real well
I have something like 7.6kwh with that unit so probably all day if needed. Maybe more.
Kenny Hayes
Member
Only thing is, if you wanna go liquid instead of powder, how do you get it out of the littleI hear Tide works real well
plastic bag, or do you use the whole thing
You gotta chew on it.Only thing is, if you wanna go liquid instead of powder, how do you get it out of the little
plastic bag, or do you use the whole thing
Living The Dream
Member
I might have this f'd up, but if you were using something like a Phoenix that draws 5.5 amps and 660 watts an hour. You would get approximately 37 minutes from a Yeti Goal Zero 400.
Living The Dream
Member
It's true and you know it.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
no such thing as steam with HWE or doing dishes.
Living The Dream
Member
Fake news.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
When doing HWE, you believe you’re cleaning with steam? Cleaning dishes?
Cleanworks
Moderator
I have a weight kit for the Sprayborg. Just don't find it necessary. I use premium juices and microfiber pads and the carpets come out beautifully. Maybe if I was doing greasepits.
Cleanworks
Moderator
"It never rains in California..."
Jack Zipper Zerkie
Member
I have one like that for sale for $ 200.00 you pay shipping runs great jus to to many extra roto tools
VLM removes soil as do all carpet cleaning methods. What I do need convincing on is what they leave behind.
The way I clean with HWE is very similar to washing your clothes. Wash cycle/Agitation/rinse cycle. Apply cleaning agent, CRB, rinse with water and groom. With the CRB doing most of the work, I can reduce the amount of cleaning agent and water pressure.
So when I clean for a repeat customer. At any point, I can remove the hose cuff off my wand and I will see just water inside the hose, extremely little or no white (cleaning agent).
Today I cleaned for a past customer that I used to clean annually. Last year she tried a VLM cleaner. She said it looked good at first but then kinda *dulled out*. When I started cleaning I noticed a slight reduction of suction, so I take off my cuff and see lots of white (cleaning agent) so much so in fact that from that point on I just presprayed water because there was enough cleaning agent in the carpet from the VLM that I just needed to activate it.
Pictures say a thousand words. Again, all I presprayed was plain, softened water.
The way I clean with HWE is very similar to washing your clothes. Wash cycle/Agitation/rinse cycle. Apply cleaning agent, CRB, rinse with water and groom. With the CRB doing most of the work, I can reduce the amount of cleaning agent and water pressure.
So when I clean for a repeat customer. At any point, I can remove the hose cuff off my wand and I will see just water inside the hose, extremely little or no white (cleaning agent).
Today I cleaned for a past customer that I used to clean annually. Last year she tried a VLM cleaner. She said it looked good at first but then kinda *dulled out*. When I started cleaning I noticed a slight reduction of suction, so I take off my cuff and see lots of white (cleaning agent) so much so in fact that from that point on I just presprayed water because there was enough cleaning agent in the carpet from the VLM that I just needed to activate it.
Pictures say a thousand words. Again, all I presprayed was plain, softened water.
hogjowl
Idiot™
This argument has been going for twenty years. It’s never going to end, but let me remind you :
Nate The Great
Member
Why are you bringing up Mikey 1.0?!? Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future...........
Don't forget to tithe..!
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Anecdotal stories can go both ways.
I’ve cleaned plenty of homes with HWE (due to new puppies, etc) after cleaning with VLM several times and I’ve never got this.
Some VLM cleaners suck and use bad chems, just like I’ve pulled out loads of soap from carpet after a shitty HWE cleaner.
I’m finding after almost two years of mostly VLM that carpet is looking cleaner long term.
My reputation is everything, so if that wasn’t the case, I’d still be mostly pulling hoses.
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Kenny Hayes
Member
Hey, after reading some of the posts here, the cleaner might’ve been using Tide and Dawn to vlm with.
Kenny Hayes
Member
and THAT, would be one of the biggest reasons not to believe!! Forget that!!
