Need more than 100 gallons?

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

renegade_cowboy said:
That is the big difference between a rotary and the zipper.. the rotary has natural agitation with how it functions.. the zipper your only agitation is the actual spray jets hitting the carpets and the little on both zipper lips. You still need to prescrub with the zipper but not with the rotary. If someone told you to get the zipper over a rotary then they gave you bad advice. The zipper is a good tool, might not be the go to for really getting out that embedded soilings.

No, I love my rotary, can't live without it. I bought the Zipper for CGD that needs to dry quickly. It works well enough and ends up being good exercise as a low impact upper body workout.

renegade_cowboy · Nov 28, 2015

rjwood said:
No, I love my rotary, can't live without it. I bought the Zipper for CGD that needs to dry quickly. It works well enough and ends up being good exercise as a low impact upper body workout.

I think that is where the zipper does best.. encap works great too on commercial carpets.

steve_64 · Nov 28, 2015

I get all my water from home.
$50 every two months for sewage and under twenty for water. Usually about $10.
I shower daily and we seem to do a lot of laundry.

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

Do I understand correctly that encap cleaning is highly dependent on the customer vacuuming regularly afterwards, and if they don't the process could have adverse affects?

Mike Draper · Nov 28, 2015

I filter my water of carbon, chlorine and fine sediment, then soften it.

hogjowl · Nov 28, 2015

rjwood said:
Do I understand correctly that encap cleaning is highly dependent on the customer vacuuming regularly afterwards, and if they don't the process could have adverse affects?

No. Post-vacuuming after encap is important only in text books.

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

Mike Draper said:
I filter my water of carbon, chlorine and fine sediment, then soften it.
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Wow! Nice setup! How big is your truck?

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

hogjowl said:
No. Post-vacuuming after encap is important only in text books.

So, just encap and go? I've watched some videos and thought about buying a setup.

Mike Draper · Nov 28, 2015

I think its a 14' box.

renegade_cowboy · Nov 28, 2015

rjwood said:
So, just encap and go? I've watched some videos and thought about buying a setup.

Pretty much.. you can post vac using a CRB. Every floor cleaning company should have an encap process it can do.

jcooper · Nov 28, 2015

rjwood said:
No. Post-vacuuming after encap is important only in text books.
So, just encap and go? I've watched some videos and thought about buying a setup.

Pretty much. Pre vac would be helpful. Hopefully get them to do it!

If they do vac after the cleaning, it's either an employee racing threw it to get done or a cleaning service(racing threw even faster). I'd imagine they are only vacuuming where they see things.

If you have a floor machine you are good to go(encap).

jcooper · Nov 28, 2015

Mike Draper said:
I filter my water of carbon, chlorine and fine sediment, then soften it.

Geeez, that's better than my house system!

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

Mike Draper said:
I think its a 14' box.
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Geeze! I feel inadequate. Kidding, of course. Very nice rig.

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

What would I need to buy for a decent encap setup?

hogjowl · Nov 28, 2015

Entry- 175 and a red pad
Decent- CBM
Excellent - Cimex

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

hogjowl said:
Excellent - Cimex

Which model do you recommend?

hogjowl · Nov 28, 2015

I got the big yellow one.

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

hogjowl said:
I got the big yellow one.

Funny! I'm on the Cimex website. Should I be looking at "carpet machines" or "scrubbers". They appear to be very much alike.

hogjowl · Nov 28, 2015

Go to excellent-supply.com

rjwood · Nov 28, 2015

Thanks.

ronbeatty · Nov 28, 2015

Mikey P said:
Is it morally corrupt to fill up at your first job of the day?

If they can afford to pay us, they can afford the water

MerCrewser · Nov 28, 2015

Years ago we had dual 200 gallon wm pro 2000 tanks we had "acquired". I worked with that truck all summer and never again will I carry water. Too much weight to carry and valuable space taken up in the truck. I've never run into issues hooking to water.

hogjowl · Nov 28, 2015

It's never a problem.

Until it is.

rjwood · Nov 29, 2015

hogjowl said:
It's never a problem.

Until it is.

Surely, that statement apples to any situation.

Steve Lawrence · Nov 29, 2015

rjwood said:
I recall reading on one of these boards (not sure if it was this one or Trash Mouth Forums) where some folks are spending upwards of $600.00/month on water? That's crazy!

Man, I'd love to have the monthly revenue of a company spending $600 a month on water. I think I could afford the water.

Mike Draper · Nov 29, 2015

i happen to be the lucky receipient of a company that was always having problems finding water on a large commercial facility. Here is how much I've been paid by that company since they fired the other guys. The revenue from this job alone is enough to purchase an brand new AT

Bob Savage · Nov 29, 2015

Been cleaning for 30 years and have always had on-board fresh water - 100 gallons. Unless you have a box truck, 100 gallons would be my limit. We have 2 setups - one in a Ford E-250, and the other in an Astro van (ETM). Both vans carry fresh water, both have inline filters and water softeners, and both have APO's.

I have an on-board water softener like Draper's, and an inline sediment filter, so wherever I fill up it is always soft water. I have a 30 GPM APO, so we enjoy continuous cleaning at every job.

When we arrive at a job, I check our water level to see if I will have enough water for cleaning without connecting to their water supply.

I also scope out their outside faucet location for closeness to the van, and will connect if it is close.

We go through some water as we run dual wands on just about every job.

renegade_cowboy · Nov 29, 2015

Bob Savage said:
Been cleaning for 30 years and have always had on-board fresh water - 100 gallons. Unless you have a box truck, 100 gallons would be my limit. We have 2 setups - one in a Ford E-250, and the other in an Astro van (ETM). Both vans carry fresh water, both have inline filters and water softeners, and both have APO's.

I have an on-board water softener like Draper's, and an inline sediment filter, so wherever I fill up it is always soft water. I have a 30 GPM APO, so we enjoy continuous cleaning at every job.

When we arrive at a job, I check our water level to see if I will have enough water for cleaning without connecting to their water supply.

I also scope out their outside faucet location for closeness to the van, and will connect if it is close.

We go through some water as we run dual wands on just about every job.

You dual wand with a 45 blower right? I remember seeing a video that you posted on here and was impressed with the suction. I bought a 56 blower and was going to do the same dual port off the blower to the tank.

Bob Savage · Nov 29, 2015

renegade_cowboy said:
You dual wand with a 45 blower right? I remember seeing a video that you posted on here and was impressed with the suction. I bought a 56 blower and was going to do the same dual port off the blower to the tank.

Yea, we dual wand with a#45 blower, which is more than enough suction if the plumbing is set up right.

renegade_cowboy · Nov 29, 2015

Bob Savage said:
Yea, we dual wand with a#45 blower, which is more than enough suction if the plumbing is set up right.

Yeah the suction in the video was impressive.. what size engine do you think will spin the 56 the best?

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