Need some truckmount advice.

[Lee Stockwell]

Bruder just got sutlied.

 

[dgardner]

Martinized?

 

[Arnold & Renae]

Ok Marty. Thank you very much. You are a fountain of information. A direct drive unit is not an option. We currently have a butler, which works great, but arnold does not want to go that route this time around. We do not have to run two hoses since we have another van just wanted to check the option. We are thinking that the heat in the van will not be a problem because the diesel does not run as hot as the gasoline. Regarding slide in units, is the only reason you do not recommend them for theft reason, or are there other reasons? We do not typically work in high crime areas, so as of yet that has not been a problem for us. Our Promaster is like the Sprinter. Knowing this information do you still not recommend for us the Chief II D? Is there another non direct drive unit you would recommend?

Renae

 

[hogjowl]

No! I will not recommend any other slide in. If security is not a concern, and if you are correct about the diesel being cooler, then the Chief II-D is perfect for you.

 

[hogjowl]

Renae:
One thing we haven't discussed is where you live? How far away are you from TCS? If you bought another system, who would be your distributor? The answers to these questions are critical before a firm suggestion can be made.

 

[Captain America]

Simple is better IMO
Easy to work on....
Larger the engine 30-35 hp. and larger the blower..4.5 at least...greater the vacuum
Heat is half the cleaning power....kero and propane are more heat than heat exchangers.....
Some used truckmounts are easily upgraded with larger engine and external propane, kero heat.....
Cap

 

[Arnold & Renae]

Northwestern PA. Jim Pemberton is closest to us. Nearest TCS is over 11 hours. We are very mechanical.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

At least talk to Pembertons. They may have other good options for you.

 

[Mikey P]

Heat is half the pie?

 

[hogjowl]

Oh wow! Let me tell you. You've probably got one of the best distributors in your area. If I lived that close to Pembertons, I'd seriously go talk to them.

 

[Arnold & Renae]

We have been talking to Jim. He has been incredibly helpful. The El Diablo and the Saphire are his favorite. Just want to make sure that we are buying the best unit for us. The Saphire 570 is quite a bit more money than the TCS. This is fine if it's that much better of a machine. We were definitely looking at the Saohire. We will talk with Jim again tomorrow.

Heat is definitely being taken into consideration.

Just got off work. Pretty sure I worked harder not smarter tonight.

Really appreciating your guys' help on this.

 

[hogjowl]

I have a Master Blend dist 12 miles from me and I'd buy a El Diablo in a second if I thought I could trust them like I trustJim.

 

[Arnold & Renae]

We looked at the El Diablo. The main concern was that it is air cooled not liquid cooled. And after talking with you about the heat in the van, the El Diablo is a gas powered motor with diesel burner.

Does anyone have an El Diablo? How long do they typically last?

 

[Able 1]

Get a diesel Apex. . Things have changed since Marty started out in the 50's..

 

[Able 1]

Good god did you guys see that post? No, way in hell I would read all that.. Probably just some pig farmer mumbo-jumbo.!

 

[hogjowl]

Good point about the air cooled engine. I've never owned a liquid cooled engine.

 

[mirf]

I have the apex diesel and it is a great unit.

 

[dgardner]

Renae, keep us updated when you make a decision!

 

[Larry Cobb]

Jim is a great distributor, but the 13" vac limitation on the Sapphire is just not acceptable.

I would lean toward the TCS TM if Jim could handle the installation.

Of course, your 3rd choice has some additional merits, also.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Perhaps not acceptable in Texas, but works superbly every day in Kentucky. :-)

 

[jwfoulk12]

You know i'd be putting an 870 in that bad boy, but thats just me. All the heat and suck you could ever want. But id definitely make sure Jim was on board with whatever you decide on. Either way I can't wait to see what you get.

 

[hogjowl]

Not acceptable in Alabama either.

 

[ruff]

Wow, not acceptable in Texas and Alabama.
That's as good an endorsement as it gets!

 

[Desk Jockey]

I'd trust Jim Pemberton's advice.

 

[Mikey P]

You really can't go wrong with any of the units you mentioned..


Pick a color and start a new thread asking Mark what his favorite rinse is..

 

[Mark Saiger]

You really can't go wrong with any of the units you mentioned..


Pick a color and start a new thread asking Mark what his favorite rinse is..

Lol... Thanks... And now behind curtain number one....

 

[ruff]

Blue.

 

[hogjowl]

It really pisses me off that Butler has screwed up a really well built system by spreading it out all over the van and taking away local support.

 

[Mark Saiger]

It really pisses me off that Butler has screwed up a really well built system by spreading it out all over the van and taking away local support.

I have no problem with them...

Even rarely have needed tech support...

And I carry everything including the kitchen sink some days

 

[Mark Saiger]

My little pretty Butlers made me $2800 again today... Pleasurably too

And the other hand tools did a fine job too

Zipper, Rotovac 360 XL, CRB, Turbo Force spinner.. Many more