New engine won't start after a few weeks...? *UPDATE*

[renegade_cowboy]

I bought a new 21 hp briggs a few weeks ago.. had Jon Don do the wiring for it.

Now out of the blue it wouldn't start today.. I checked all the wiring and it looks good.

* Won't turn over
* Fuel pump works
* There appears to be power heading to the starter, when I mess with the wire it sparks on the relay.. guess that means its getting power

* There is a clicking noise when I turn the key, but think it's coming from the carb or something.

* Would a ground wire that was grounded directly on the starter cause it to fail electrically?

Past the starter it seems to be a no go.. usually if it was a cut off switch the engine would still turn over. It has a new battery with newer battery cables. I can easily turn the engine and blower by hand too, so its not locked up.

 

[Hoody]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

Have you tried grounding it directly to the frame?

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

Check the wires terminated by the oil filter

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

I tried grounding to the frame with no results.

I checked the oil cut off switch and it looks like a soild hook up to the ignition switch. I wonder since it was grounded to the starter it fried the starter.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

Won't turn over

see if the BLOWER will spin .
grab the belts or coupler (which ever is applicable)
and see if it turns .

you should be able to move it some even hooked to the engine .
It will "relatively" easy til the engine gets to the compression stroke.

if it won't move at all, the blower is struck .
(That's not a big deal and generally be unstuck with a pipe wrench on the pulley or shaft


edit....OOPSS....never mind

I can easily turn the engine and blower by hand too

..l.T.A.

 

[Hoody]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

It can only be a few things, check all wires, and check battery terminal connections. If you have a volt meter, check the voltage going to the starter. If you can remove the starter, then go have it tested.

 

[Becker]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

I'm around this weekend if ya need a hand.

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/pro ... Alternator

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...? ***UPDATE**

Thanks guys for the help, might take you up on that Don.. Thanks Bob that is the engine, I got it through them with free shipping

So I was able to get it started by hooking jumper cables directly to the starter. As soon as I did that it sparked and engage the starter.. I pulled it away as soon as it sparked.

I was able to start it normally with the key.. and did that a few times. Then it did it again and I had to touch the starter with the jumper cables.

 

[Hoody]

Re: New engine won't start after a few weeks...?

Now that you've jumped it directly, look at the solenoid.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

How do I check that?

The engine is only a few weeks old, so I hope it would go longer without breaking down. The relay is mounted on the starter (came that way). There was a ground that was connected to the starter right on the metal band that held the relay to the starter.

http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/ima ... 0132_2.jpg

 

[Hoody]

Turn the key over, and check the voltage before relay to the starter. Don't do a spark test, you can fry a starter doing that. That'll ensure power is getting to the relay. If no power then you have a bad connection at the battery. If there is power there, then you test with a volt meter again at the starter while attempting to start the machine. If there is no power there, but there is before the relay/solenoid, then it'll tell you the relay is bad/faulty.

I can't tell but is the relay removable ? If so it can be replaced, if not you'll need a new starter.

Normally the problems you're having is caused by corrosive battery terminals, or a bad wire connection.

I guess it could be an ignition wire if applicable.

I don't know a ton about this engine, just trying to walk through simple diagnostics.

 

[Bob Foster]

You're welcome.

Here's your manual.


http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/ima ... 350700.pdf

 

[Becker]

You have a loose connection somewhere, more than likely..

Could be at the starter, could be at the key.

Vibration of starting is causing a connections to break, or engage.

Just my guess.

 

[John Olson]

If you had bought t locally you could have just drove it back and had it fixed under warranty.

 

[Terry]

John I agree 100% with you, local distributors may cost a little more but when shxt hits fan there right there.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

It's weird the engine is working fine after I sparked the starter.

John, I agree going local is the way to go, but i saved $600+ by going online through that website. You know us owners, always trying to save a buck.

I moved that ground they hooked up on the starter.