New found Love for My SS 370

[Mikey P]

13 is more than enough with a proper wand-ing technique and good hose management

 

[Dolly Llama]

Blower is 45

What did you get, Derrick
Boxer 421?


..L.T.A.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Interesting how most manufacturers set the vac relief at 13 or 14

Less than that 20 years ago.
I always ran mine at 14

truth is though, if you're pulling 14hg while the wand's on the carpet, you got lock-down problem and need to adjust for that particular carpet situation

..L.T.A.

 

[DAT]

What did you get, Derrick
Boxer 421?


..L.T.A.

423s boxxer

 

[DAT]

This one, but i got it used at 1k hour. I had to buy new hx. Its all paid off too. Now i just need new bigger van.

It gets real hot too.

https://www.jondon.com/hydramaster-boxxer-423s-truck-mount.html?product_sku=HM-TMB423S1-EA

 

[DAT]

 

[BIG WOOD]

423s boxxer

I don’t know why I thought you had the 318

 

[BIG WOOD]

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That was looking professional, until the red handle was noticed

 

[Desk Jockey]

Yep, the snow shovel handle has to go.

 

[Mikey P]

morons.

 

[DAT]

That was looking professional, until the red handle was noticed

Yep, the snow shovel handle has to go.

 

[Nampa Carpet Cleaning]

I have used one of those for years and wouldn't run without it! I monitor RPM for optimal fuel consumption. The engine runs at 3000 RPM, single or dual wands. The pulley ratios determine pump and blower RPM's for maximum power and optimal fuel usage.

I just checked mine yesterday. Its running at 3080 rpm. I thought about going up to 3400. I've heard the Kohler is suppose to run full throttle all the time at 3600 ?

 

[Nampa Carpet Cleaning]

Do you know what the blower spins at compared to the motor? As in faster or slower than motor rpm

The blower spins faster than the engine @3000 rpm it spins @3400 according to my owners manual

 

[Hack Attack]

I just checked mine yesterday. Its running at 3080 rpm. I thought about going up to 3400. I've heard the Kohler is suppose to run full throttle all the time at 3600 ?

my understanding of aircooled motors is if running under full throttle they run *cooler

so your engine should last longer at full throttle but possibly less heat produced at your HX

 

[Meter Maid]

my understanding of aircooled motors is if running under full throttle they run *cooler

so your engine should last longer at full throttle but possibly less heat produced at your HX

I actually confirmed that with the mechanic that works on my lawnmower. He said he would never run an air cooled motor in the summer at less than full throttle. It must be done to produce more heat by the big companies.

Furthermore, the blowers used in our machines are designed to run at full blast 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I don’t think there’s really any reason to dumb those down either. I doubt we stress the blowers the way we use them in anyway.

Almost makes me consider a steam action machine. I have a competitor that has run the 27/45 versions for years and he gets years of life out of his Kohlers because steam action designs them to run at 3600 rpm. He also says his 27/45 steam action machines perform better than his HM 575 at 200 feet and less.

 

[Bob Savage]

I just checked mine yesterday. Its running at 3080 rpm. I thought about going up to 3400. I've heard the Kohler is suppose to run full throttle all the time at 3600 ?

I have a Honda 24 HP motor that has been running at 3000 RPM for 16 years now, so I hope I just didn't just jinx it.

 

[Nampa Carpet Cleaning]

I actually confirmed that with the mechanic that works on my lawnmower. He said he would never run an air cooled motor in the summer at less than full throttle. It must be done to produce more heat by the big companies.

Furthermore, the blowers used in our machines are designed to run at full blast 24 hours a day, seven days a week. I don’t think there’s really any reason to dumb those down either. I doubt we stress the blowers the way we use them in anyway.

Almost makes me consider a steam action machine. I have a competitor that has run the 27/45 versions for years and he gets years of life out of his Kohlers because steam action designs them to run at 3600 rpm. He also says his 27/45 steam action machines perform better than his HM 575 at 200 feet and less.

I will have to check out Steam Action. I don't understand how their HX works because they don't have any diagrams or anything

 

[Mikey P]

Probably because no two units are the same...

 

[Desk Jockey]

I will have to check out Steam Action. I don't understand how their HX works because they don't have any diagrams or anything

I think Daryl and his brother Daryl put those things together in the barn out back. Good luck to anyone that buys one.

I've seen them many times at my distributors as he pulled his hair out trying to figure out problems with them. He was even more frustrated calling them for any kind of support or parts. They are not a major manufacturer, buy at your own risk.

 

[Meter Maid]

The one I saw the other day looked as simple as can be. The main pump does everything, it pulls water from the freshwater tank and pulls chemical for last step. I didn’t see any high-pressure hoses, just fresh water into the pump and then out of the pump into two massive heat exchangers. There is a thermal valve that sends hot water back to the freshwater tank if the pump gets too hot. Kind of reminded me of a Judson but with heat exchangers.

 

[Meter Maid]

This was the newest machine he bought though. He said ever since Sammy the son took over, things have gotten better the last couple years.

 

[Mikey P]

This was the newest machine he bought though. He said ever since Sammy the son took over, things have gotten better the last couple years.

But a Trinity is too backwoods looking for you.


Lordy.....

 

[Johnny]

The teeemeff machines appear to be rebadged Steam Actions.

 

[Meter Maid]

But a Trinity is too backwoods looking for you.


Lordy.....

No I just don’t like them.

 

[Meter Maid]

The teeemeff machines appear to be rebadged Steam Actions.

They are.

 

[Mikey P]

No I just don’t like them.

It.

As in idIoT.


You'd still have the Phoenix but you bought the wrong machine and hold a grudge for your lack of due diligence.

 

[Meter Maid]

It.

As in idIoT.


You'd still have the Phoenix but you bought the wrong machine and hold a grudge for your lack of due diligence.

No, the rotations are too fast. I prefer oscillation with rotations around 80 rpm.

 

[Meter Maid]

There’s no grudge. I stopped the grudge stuff after new ownership took over.

I have several hours behind a grumpy which runs at the same exact speed the Phoenix does. I didn’t like it either.

 

[Mikey P]

No, the rotations are too fast. I prefer oscillation with rotations around 80 rpm.

Lol..


Stfu

 

[Meter Maid]

Lol..


Stfu

When are you going admit there’s financial benefit for you sucking off TOPS machines all over carpet cleaning world?