Ofer and his need for lower pressure

[Mikey P]

Saw a comment that you would like your Pro1200 to clean at below 278 psi..


Why?



I can't for the life of me imagine a scenario where less that 400 would ever be needed.


Upholstery?


What tool worth owning does not have a flow dial?
Delicate carpet? 400 and an additional dry pass will get it cleaner



Do you use the TM as a dental pick to flush out the Tabbouleh from your chompers after lunch?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Has to be upholstery???

Carpet cleaning at 275 psi, you might as well use a portable.

 

[Mikey P]

just can't see it, especially with any of the new plastic head tools, just turn down the flow.


Or dry clean it with cancer causing solvents.

 

[hogjowl]

He said he had no solution reel, in the same thread.

What kind of idiot buys a $25,000 rig and doesn't spend another $250 on a solution reel?

Ignore him.

 

[Mikey P]

He must have known we would be raffling off two spiffy solution reels at MFE and wanted to wait.

 

[Desk Jockey]

He said he had no solution reel, in the same thread.

What kind of idiot buys a $25,000 rig and doesn't spend another $250 on a solution reel?

Ignore him.

Gaaawwwd Porkchop, what a jerk!

Are you this bad in real life?

Hell......you're probably worse!!!

 

[hogjowl]

He started it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Oh, in that case....carry on!

 

[FB7777]

From what I've read over the years, Kolton and Kelly should consult with their local distributors and see if they can install a Pro1200 in their old ride from high school











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[Art Kelley]

From what I've read and experienced, Butlers are designed by non-carpet cleaners and sold by generic salesmen, thus the underpowered vacuums and the pisspoor layout that allows for no tools in the truck. Marty hears nothing from Pro1200 owners because the machines just work and work for years and years.

 

[Shane Deubell]

Didn't brian just buy 4 of them?

That guy must not know what he is doing ....

 

[Art Kelley]

Didn't brian just buy 4 of them?

That guy must not know what he is doing ....

Indeed, it's a whole nother business we're talking about. I showed the Hagopian guys my 360i and they never saw anything like it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I don't know someone must be helping the Butler engineers, 210-gallon waste tanks are a carpet cleaners dream!

 

[Art Kelley]

210 would be nice if you don't dump for two days. A 20 gallon filter box would match it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Two days? LOL It does take some time to fill them.

Which makes it excellent for commercial carpet cleaning, water damage work & sewer cleanup.

 

[steve_64]

haha my bane is maxed out at about 180 psi lol. before i trigger the wand!

its still making me money...

 

[GCCLee]

I cleaned something at about 50psi, but can't remember what it was. Jus remember turning the truck WAY down


if it comes to me I'll post

 

[Desk Jockey]

I piss at 100 psi

 

[FB7777]

Art,

Sometimes, OK actually most times, you don't make any sense

You claim you ran over 1000 hours a year on your Pro1200, We average 700-750 hours per year and some days we completely fill the 210 all day tanks

If you are running the 360i on at least 2 jobs a day, you'd really love having a waste tank that can handle the workload

No way We could have 100-110 gallon waste tanks without APO, and I think an APO is a PITA

Pro1200 have a 56 blower and our Butlers have 47 blowers , I've run both and frankly don't see the difference .

I might look at the Pro 1200 if they had a larger waste tank option, the fact that Sapphire stopped using stainless waste tanks is also a turnoff

Makes me wonder where else they may have tried to save a buck

Definitely agree on the layout of a butler , next truck. I am skipping the shelving and going with a lower profile wall shelf on the left side.

 

[ruff]

A thread with my name!
And spelled correctly.
Yippi.

Carry on boys

 

[Mikey P]

So I was correct about the teeth?

 

[Art Kelley]

Fred, I only have used two Pro1200s and they both have 150 gallon waste tanks. White Magic designs. But that is not what SS makes. Their's are 120 gallons or less. The SS layout takes only 1/2 the van unlike the 95% the Butler takes. Plus it has better vacuum. Better machine, better layout. It's good to keep an open mind. That's how we grow. As for aluminum tanks, my 87 and my 03 are solid thick tanks that will not leak or flex.

 

[ruff]

From what I've read over the years, Kolton and Kelly should consult with their local distributors and see if they can install a Pro1200 in their old ride from high school


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LOL.





I'm from Israel. I walked to school.

I considered stealing a donkey, but had a severe case of the conscience.

 

[ruff]

So I was correct about the teeth?

Yep.

 

[Mikey P]

I find I get level 4 pockets if I exceed 150 psi.

 

[ruff]

To answer your question seriously, not that it ain't a big mistake to do so.........

I use low pressure on occasions that I need better control of the amount of water being used.

1. It could be runner stairs with exposed wood on the sides, where the wood reacts to moisture fast (I wipe it quickly). And no I will not clean them with an upholstery tool like some here.
2. Woven area carpets the likes of Stark etc. with a jute core. I will not encap them (I do have a conscience), using the 175 will over fluff the wool, yet they need a decent cleaning and at times in-plant cleaning is not an option. And no I will not clean them with an upholstery tool like some here. Using a low psi on the pull only, allows me to provide a decent cleaning without the need to buy the rug.
3. Unlike the Pro-1200 which I love, the CDS has great control of the low psi.
4. No need to be your usual apologist for SS. Great machine, I love it. Has some small limitations as mentioned in other post, I can deal with it. I wish it didn't have to.
5. Never mind. Now that I have an option:

   I piss at 100 psi

   

   I think I'll be fine.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I wonder if a different pressure regulator could be used to allow you to adjust it that low. All though I don't believe your chem pump would operate in that low pressure range.

 

[bob vawter]

LOL.





I'm from Israel. I walked to school.

I considered stealing a donkey, but had a severe case of the conscience.

I'm from Israel. I walked to school.

shlep...you shleped to school

 

[ruff]

You're right Richard. The chem pump won't operate that low.

 

[Mikey P]

I bet Ray would be more than happy to send you a ball valve with a male and female quick connect on ether side for the purpose of LPHWE just because you're a premium member on TWGCCF.


Hell, he may even go so far as to use a locking needle valve.