Lee Stockwell
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Kleenrite tools were almost $300 in 1981, and I heard similar arguments over the years about them in comparison to cheaper metal tools.
PMF UPHOLSTERY TOOL REPLACEMENT VALVE
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steve_64
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For $300 I bought a gas grill that weighs about 100 pounds of mostly stainless steel. Thing is big and heavy. I'm sure a LOT more went into R and D than most tools we use.
I understand they sell more gas grills than distys sell carpet cleaning tools but WTF!
Mikey P
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Maybe @Tim Baker can explain the economics behind high priced cleaning tools...
steve_64
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It does keep some of the Yahoo's from venturing into the trade. 
Lee Stockwell
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About 2 pounds of stainless.
Desk Jockey
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You can look at cost but I prefer to look at the benefits.
It allows you to safely clean special care fabrics. Saving on possible damage from tools that leave the fabric too wet. No sharp metal edges to accidentally slice or snag delicate fabrics.
Lighter weight allows you to process more pieces with very little fatigue from head weight. Also the lighter weight won't give you carpal tunnel or tendinitis in your elbow like heavier tools eventually will.
So while the price is higher than the entry level tools, it is competitively priced with the tools in its category.
It allows you to safely clean special care fabrics. Saving on possible damage from tools that leave the fabric too wet. No sharp metal edges to accidentally slice or snag delicate fabrics.
Lighter weight allows you to process more pieces with very little fatigue from head weight. Also the lighter weight won't give you carpal tunnel or tendinitis in your elbow like heavier tools eventually will.
So while the price is higher than the entry level tools, it is competitively priced with the tools in its category.
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NOOO! Maybe 20. This thing is awsome! Not sure but it's heavy gage.
Not to mention the red matches our colors.
Desk Jockey
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I've never used the prochem, but that bulky tool looks like it wants to hit someone in the forehead and flood some furniture
Desk Jockey
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Its a great tool for standard care upholstery. You can open the bypass valve and get super hot water when you need it. The design is great, just heavy. It was built to last, they need to make it out of titanium and they would sell more.
Well, maybe. Some of yous bastards can't see the forrest for the trees.
What did you say? I just got hit in the face with a tree branchIts a great tool for standard care upholstery. You can open the bypass valve and get super hot water when you need it. The design is great, just heavy. It was built to last, they need to make it out of titanium and they would sell more.
Well, maybe. Some of yous bastards can't see the forrest for the trees.
Goomer
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If it's a PMF internal, take the valve itself out of the housing and close it with the cap.
Use your ball valve to use it as a continuous flow tool.
Open the valve until the spray is rolling in the vac slot and go to town with it.
Don't shut your vacuum without shutting the valve.
Use your ball valve to use it as a continuous flow tool.
Open the valve until the spray is rolling in the vac slot and go to town with it.
Don't shut your vacuum without shutting the valve.
Steve Lawrence
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Just a note for those with weight issues on whatever furniture tool you are using: get a 1.25" smooth exterior vacuum hose which will accept a 1.5" cuff for your tool. The lighter weight and minimal drag with your vacuum hose can reduce your effort significantly.
I tried out a stock Sapphire Upholstery tool and it had a heavy, clunkly, ribbed 1.5" hose which reduced the tool's friendliness significantly. That and inability to do detail well had me send that piece of junk back after 1 sofa.
Yeah, I'm opinionated.
I tried out a stock Sapphire Upholstery tool and it had a heavy, clunkly, ribbed 1.5" hose which reduced the tool's friendliness significantly. That and inability to do detail well had me send that piece of junk back after 1 sofa.
Yeah, I'm opinionated.
icleancarpetz
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Velcro strap.
I think it's funny how these idiots said to use a rubber band
Desk Jockey
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I believe that there is no right and wrong, its a personal preference.
haha that's what I always say to those that are WRONG!
haha that's what I always say to those that are WRONG!
Lee Stockwell
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I've used them for years, my genius friend.
Lee Stockwell
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On big jobs with Kleenrite they allowed quick conversion to constant flow, relieving strain on trigger fingers.
On SS in lock-on mode they hold the trigger up more flush with the tool, making it less likely to catch fabric on the back stroke.
Cheap, easy to get, use, and discard.
On SS in lock-on mode they hold the trigger up more flush with the tool, making it less likely to catch fabric on the back stroke.
Cheap, easy to get, use, and discard.
Steve Lawrence
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Try a robust rubber band. They are out there.
It seems it'd be a pain and would break constantly
Cleanworks
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Seems like a lot of weak handed upholstery cleaners out there. Y'all need to go see Nate to learn some hand strengthening exercises.
icleancarpetz
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Velcro is cheapest way and easiest to put on and take off and will last longer then rubber-bands. 2 bucks at JD. Buy a few.
I like the idea of adding a ball valve to the line. Thx
I like the idea of adding a ball valve to the line. Thx
Lee Stockwell
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Too bulky.
icleancarpetz
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Maybe for some people. Maybe preference. Works fine for me.
Ive been using it this way for jobs with 300-400 hotel or church chairs with a portable.
Desk Jockey
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Man I don't care if they ever sell another one, they don't share any profits with me.
Seriously, we have 6-Blue one one clear head. I'm only giving my honest opinion after cleaning upholstery here in plant for 10-years.
We've owned nearly every tool out there and yet my guys as well as myself will reach for the Sapphire Upholstery tool first.
Buy it don't buy it....I don't give a Rats AZZ!
Desk Jockey
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Bite my azz.
No why?
No why?
