RE swirls- Hoss

hogjowl · Oct 18, 2015

Mike Draper said:
I remember when I first got on here talking about the zipper. Was probably one of the first to get one must have been 7-8 years ago. I had to defend my decision becuase it was a dumb fad.

So, this is all about YOU now?

Scott S. · Oct 18, 2015

Turn your heat down it will jelp keep from getting permenant marks.

Studebaker · Oct 18, 2015

After you extract go over the same area with a dry pass in a differant pattern and you won't have the swirl marks. Also groom as you go.

Keith

Scott S. · Oct 18, 2015

Cutting threw grease today pretty easily.

Able 1 · Oct 18, 2015

Mike Draper said:
I remember when I first got on here talking about the zipper. Was probably one of the first to get one must have been 7-8 years ago. I had to defend my decision becuase it was a dumb fad.

Might have also been the first guy talking up the first Rotovac 360,
Which was a POS.. Spin Master..

Mike Draper · Oct 19, 2015

the first rotovac 360 out cleaned any wand thats made today and will still outlcean any wand 175 combo in residential. I dont have a bit of shame bragging that thing up. quality wise, it was a pos, but it gave my compettion a run for its money.

Kris Stevenson · Oct 19, 2015

Studebaker said:
After you extract go over the same area with a dry pass in a differant pattern and you won't have the swirl marks. Also Groom as you go.

I don't agree with that statement. On commercial carpet once the line is in the carpet, it is in there for good. I've dry stroked and groomed till I'm blue in the face and it doesn't fix the problem.

Desk Jockey · Oct 19, 2015

hogjowl said:
Have I out waited the fad?

No way its just as Draper said about the Zipper its no fad.

A shift, its a paradigm shift. Its foolish to think the wand with its minor changes over the last 50-years is tool of choice. Look at how everything else we use has changed in time.

RE's are here to stay, they clean better those without them can come up with millions of reasons why they don't need one but the honest truth is a person, any person cannot sling a wand and expect results anywhere near that of an RE. Sure you can do things to improve your results over "just a wand", use a Cimex, CRB, 175 & floor pad but its more time & more labor just to try to equal that of an RE.

The modern RE is lighter so its easier to carry in & out of the van, yet doesn't compromise any on its effectiveness. They kick ass and are a "must have" in the residential setting.

Mikey P · Oct 19, 2015

Rich nailed it.

A must have tool for residential.

hogjowl · Oct 19, 2015

BS
175 and Zipper
No swirls

Mikey P · Oct 19, 2015

Suit yourself Porky

Ignert is blith

Desk Jockey · Oct 19, 2015

hogjowl said:
BS

and if you use a land line you never have worry about cell phone cancer either!

Good luck finding a phone booth Superman!

hogjowl · Oct 19, 2015

Insulting me doesn't prove anything.

Except that you're insulting.

And we already knew that.

Desk Jockey · Oct 19, 2015

hogjowl said:
Insulting me doesn't prove anything.
Except that you're insulting.
And we already knew that.

LOL

That's all I was trying to accomplish any way. :biggrin:

Desk Jockey · Oct 19, 2015

hogjowl said:
Except that you're insulting.
And we already knew that.

I git a bad rep from this place. I'm actually a very nice guy.

Bastard! :icon_twisted:

Ok Ok so maaaybe not. :lol:

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

Marty - What kinda heat you getting on your machine?

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

Marty - What kinda heat you getting on your machine?

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

incase no one know how to clean or take the hoss apart.

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

heat turned down, using .052 orifice. not heat set of the poly

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

nasty commercial, at a car dealership service waiting area

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

more commercial glue down.

ronbeatty · Oct 19, 2015

Desk Jockey said:
No way its just as Draper said about the Zipper its no fad.

A shift, its a paradigm shift. Its foolish to think the wand with its minor changes over the last 50-years is tool of choice. Look at how everything else we use has changed in time.

RE's are here to stay, they clean better those without them can come up with millions of reasons why they don't need one but the honest truth is a person, any person cannot sling a wand and expect results anywhere near that of an RE. Sure you can do things to improve your results over "just a wand", use a Cimex, CRB, 175 & floor pad but its more time & more labor just to try to equal that of an RE.

The modern RE is lighter so its easier to carry in & out of the van, yet doesn't compromise any on its effectiveness. They kick ass and are a "must have" in the residential setting.

Richard, I totally disagree, all the RE's are a pain in the neck and arms. The power cord is always wrapped around something and they are heavier to carry than a wand. If you have the right chemistry I can clean anything with a wand.

Desk Jockey · Oct 19, 2015

ronbeatty said:
Richard, I totally disagree, all the RE's are a pain in the neck and arms. The power cord is always wrapped around something and they are heavier to carry than a wand. If you have the right chemistry I can clean anything with a wand.

Ron its ok for you to disagree. :winky:

BUT you're still WRONG! :biggrin:

Mikey P · Oct 19, 2015

No wand, zippy or otherwise will dig grit and crud out like ANY re will.

Convincing yourself otherwise is mearly a physical or finacial convience

Scott S. · Oct 19, 2015

Desk Jockey said:
Ron its ok for you to disagree.

BUT you're still WRONG!

I agree with Desk Jockey, A rotary moves around the fiber, digs out more hair, lint, sand, and cleans nearly 360 degrees of the fiber, a wand cannot dig out some of the heavy soils because it has to spray threw the fiber to rinse out the deep down stuff which means you would have to either use a crb to dig out the crap or crank your pressure way up to literally blow out the soil. i will stick with my rotaries. and avoid the over wetting, and problems that it brings.

Desk Jockey · Oct 19, 2015

Congestive dissonance- mental masturbation. :winky:

http://www.moralstories.org/the-fox-and-the-grapes/

ronbeatty · Oct 19, 2015

If they are so good why do I always read threads about needing different spray bars, flow controls, glides etc. sounds like pain in the a-- to me.

Nate The Great · Oct 19, 2015

ronbeatty said:
If they are so good why do I always read threads about needing different spray bars, flow controls, glides etc. sounds like pain in the a-- to me.

It still comes down to the user of the tool.... The more experience you have using a tool, you learn the limitations/benefits of said tool.... A seasoned pro at using an RE will know when to use it and when not too.... I know it's not rocket science, just clean carpet...

hogjowl · Oct 19, 2015

Yeah, but if you prescrub with a 175 and rinse with a Zipper, you don't have swirls in the carpet that won't come out.

And that is what this tread is about.

hogjowl · Oct 19, 2015

Scott S. said:
Marty - What kinda heat you getting on your machine?

Zipper at 12 flow and 600 psi- 210 at the van.
Ti- wand with 9 flow and 500 psi- 220 at the van.
Tile spinner with who knows what flow and 1000 psi- 23o at the van.

So hot we need gloves to handle the tools.

RE swirls- Hoss

Idiot™

Supportive Member

Member

Supportive Member

Attachments

Member

Member

Member

Member

Administrator

Idiot™

Administrator

Member

Idiot™

Member

Member

Supportive Member

Supportive Member

Supportive Member

Supportive Member

Supportive Member

Supportive Member

Member

Member

Administrator

Supportive Member

Member

Member

Member

Idiot™

Idiot™