Sapphire Pro 1200 (again)
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Desk Jockey
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The old Prochem 405's only pulled 12 inches of mercury.
Desk Jockey
Member
ya dipsh*t you decide what you want in it. Buy it with no water tank or shelving and put in your own, with your own layout.
Bill Bruders
Supportive Member
Marty, I don't hate you I just don't want you to buy one of our machines
It clearly will never meet your special needs.
Oh and by the way the name is Bruders
Desk Jockey
Member
Mikey P
Administrator
Who ever sells Marty a truckmount will have to toss a football hemet into the deal to help with his....
Special needs..
Special needs..
hogjowl
Idiot™
What's being a dip shit got to do with it?ya dipsh*t you decide what you want in it. Buy it with no water tank or shelving and put in your own, with your own layout.
It's not like its anything NEW
knoxclean
Supportive Member
13 seems fine on our 1200 more vac then we need. My Cobb machine is set at 17 which is high but thats they way Larry sets them up.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Everybody a news flash:
The vacuum is adjustable!
Pick your poison.
The vacuum is adjustable!
Pick your poison.
Ever consider a hydramaster PTO? they have all of that space in the back like a cleanco too.
47 blower
I can see why you are skittish because of that vortex purchase.
47 blower
I can see why you are skittish because of that vortex purchase.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Russ T.
Supportive Member
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FB7777
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Russ, the Hydramaster CDS looks like a great unit too. A good friend runs 2 of them and loves them, especially the room
I doubt you could go wrong with any of those direct drive units
I doubt you could go wrong with any of those direct drive units
As long as they squirt and suck thats all you need.
ruff
Member
Unless Butler is willing to change the layout and accommodate your need for more space effective design, that will rule them out for me.
And I know, Russ, that you like to have lots of equipment options in the van.
And I doubt that you'll run your business, "three vans to the door" like Marko does. Which is why he can get away with the storage space in his van. Not to mention utilizing every hanging, condensing, levitating gadget known to human kind under the not so blue sky, to enable him to store everything.
Heaven's knows how many tools he has to move in order to get to the one he needs
I had a few CDS and now the "old" Pro-1200 with the L shape tank, and I have every bit as much storage space in the back as I had with my CDS. However, you can't go wrong with any of the units.
And I know, Russ, that you like to have lots of equipment options in the van.
And I doubt that you'll run your business, "three vans to the door" like Marko does. Which is why he can get away with the storage space in his van. Not to mention utilizing every hanging, condensing, levitating gadget known to human kind under the not so blue sky, to enable him to store everything.
Heaven's knows how many tools he has to move in order to get to the one he needs
I had a few CDS and now the "old" Pro-1200 with the L shape tank, and I have every bit as much storage space in the back as I had with my CDS. However, you can't go wrong with any of the units.
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Nate The Great
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Funny thing that people dis Butler's like you have no control over what you want in the van.... I'm sure you can add things after you get the "bare necessities" you want.... Don't like the water tank design, don't add it and add your own.... It's not rocket science, just carpet cleaning....
J
JS41035
Guest
Kinda. But I've never seen a butler with anything but Butler stuff. You can't really add a hydro cradle style tank. Any other setup would waste more space than a factor butler setup. Butler could do it. They could even keep the unit on the floor where it has always been. It wouldn't be as much space as a CDS/hydro cradle combo. But they could build a nice stainless water tank with a hose reel built in. Maybe make it an option.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Ding,ding, ding....we have a winner
Get as much or as little as you want....
People just tend to load them up with all the Butler options .....
Russ T.
Supportive Member
Ofer made a really good point.
There's an acronym in organization O.H.I.O.. "Only handle it once". You shouldn't (ideally) have to move something to get to something else. Then you have to move that thing AGAIN to put that thing back that you used. It's exhausting and frustrating over time.
If I had my wish, Butler would rethink their layout as the Euro vans begin to dominate.
Chevy might continue with their express vans for a minute, but not much longer.
You can't argue with Butler's track record of reliability and awesome build quality with a warranty that backs it up.
But we want more space!
It was one of the things that pushed me toward Cleanco 2 Summers ago.
There's an acronym in organization O.H.I.O.. "Only handle it once". You shouldn't (ideally) have to move something to get to something else. Then you have to move that thing AGAIN to put that thing back that you used. It's exhausting and frustrating over time.
If I had my wish, Butler would rethink their layout as the Euro vans begin to dominate.
Chevy might continue with their express vans for a minute, but not much longer.
You can't argue with Butler's track record of reliability and awesome build quality with a warranty that backs it up.
But we want more space!
It was one of the things that pushed me toward Cleanco 2 Summers ago.
Mikey P
Administrator
Is that what you have currently Russ?
Russ T.
Supportive Member
Yes sir. Cleanco Compact 47 with Max Heat in a 2009 Ford E250.
Super reliable and let's me just get to work. I'd like to have more say in the install. A few minor issues that were either install related or just not loved on by original owner the way I like to.
Water Pond or the like in the next one also.
ruff
Member
Saiger" data-source="post: 4357561" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">Not quite so fast.
Butler's machine is wider and lays low.
They do not give you the option of an under mount tank or the equivalent to what Hydramaster does with theirs. Both being space saving designs.
Indisputably, a very good machine and company.
However, no matter how little options you get with the Butler, you're still starting with less available space to begin with.
A guide to the perplexed: Having to buy an extended van, does not make the design more spacious
hogjowl
Idiot™
You realize your disagreeing with Mr. Happy, and a MF speaker, right?
Desk Jockey
Member
Marty no matter which unit you choose, spend a day or two running the unit. You'll be able to make a much better decision having run the unit and know about the picadillos before you own it. With all the MB gang you should have your choice of who to visit that has the machine you are interested in.
You picky fookin bastard!
You picky fookin bastard!
ruff
Member
Marty needs to be one of the beta testers of the new pro-1200. [So far I love my new "old" one.]
It will provide us with top notch entertainment.
And help Bill B. both develop his character and re-connect with his humble self.
But my good friend Mark is a good, friendly and highly religious man. So, I think I'm safe.
Besides, he's too busy contemplating buying his new gadget.
It will provide us with top notch entertainment.
And help Bill B. both develop his character and re-connect with his humble self.
Painfully so!
But my good friend Mark is a good, friendly and highly religious man. So, I think I'm safe.
Besides, he's too busy contemplating buying his new gadget
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Desk Jockey
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hogjowl
Idiot™
If he's religious, he must be a JW.
Cuz he drinks like a fish.
Cuz he drinks like a fish.
Desk Jockey
Member
Do you drink Pigsnot?
