SCOTCHGARD,TEFLON,MAXIM,FOURGARD ?

[Desk Jockey]

You're marrying your honey, you're shhhmart!

 

[steve_64]

You're marrying your honey, you're shhhmart!

Not sure how smart I am but Im not stupid.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Glad for the both of you!

Tooo cool!!!

 

[steve_64]

Thank you Richard.

 

[D Luke]

for carpet?

Are you willing to apply one gallon per 200 to 400 feet for them to properly work?

Most are not. In humid areas the customer would never call you back.


There are a couple of water based products that require 1 gallon for 800 to 1000 feet.


Or get a gas mask and use a solvent.

It's good to finally hear someone say it. Put down protector to manufacturer's specifications on a freshly cleaned carpet and you have a carpet that might take longer than 24 hours to dry.

What are we supposed to do? Leave fans and make a return trip to get them? Put on less protector and screw the customer but actually get it dry in decent time? Do nothing and leave the carpet wet for 2 days?

I dunno...I obviously like the revenue of protector sales, but don't push them because of the drying issues.

 

[Scott S.]

if you guys spray protector on upholstery the maxim for upholstery is great stuff. i know mikey likes the solvent stuff but i like the water base stuff, especailly since it has dye loc in it and can be used on most of the fabrics you come accrosss. it dries pretty fast. upholstery protectant, i sell that alot.

 

[steve_64]

Cit the water in half and the amount used in an area.

 

[steve_64]

Cit the water in half and the amount used in an area.you still use the same amount of protector. The water is just for delivery.
Brush it in a little more thouroughly and you get the same results.

 

[Jimmy L]

So you don't think by adding some 90% alcohol it wouldn't speed up the drying?

 

[Scott S.]

So you don't think by adding some 90% alcohol it wouldn't speed up the drying?

im sure if it was that easy they would have done that.

 

[dealtimeman]

The alcohol might interfere or mess with the chemical structure of the final product but someone like forsythe would probably know for sure.

 

[dgardner]

Fill a shot glass full of water and another full of chardonnay. Place them side by side and time how long it takes for the entire contents of each glass to evaporate. I think you'll find a few percent alcohol does not speed the evaporation of the water.....

 

[Zee]

I don't think it makes sense to try to accelerate the drying of protector and/or encap products.

Why would you want to force it into the air, when the basic principles of that type of chemistry is to dry "attached to the fabric"?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Place them side by side and time how long it takes for the entire contents of each glass to evaporate.

I've tried that test but damn if the Chardonnay doesn't keep disappearing. "Pour me another"

 

[Jimmy L]

Why Zee it would dry it faster.............and stick to the fiber. I'll try both with and without in a clear glass dish to see.

 

[steve_64]

just use a solvent protector

 

[Mikey P]

So why all the interest in protector sales NOW Jimmy?

 

[Jimmy L]

Well Mikey while you're all about womanly industry gossip I am all about finding things out.
Some self proclaimed industry "Guru" was supposed to post his findings on protector results. But he seemed more interested in his "Status" . I WANT THE TRUTH!

So thanks to Jim we have a result!

Thank you Jim for clarifying this.

But I heard thru the grapevine that Cobb's juice was just as good.
But alas it's that damn shipping cost that evens out against a local purchase.

 

[Mikey P]

And who do you think aranged for Jim, Interlink, Cobbs and Professional Testing Labs to get together to perform these tests?, Mr Late to the Party..

 

[Desk Jockey]

I know I know!

 

[Ken692]

I love adding the protectant, makes a great impact to the bottom line, and I feel better knowing dirt will take longer to grind in.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Thank you Jim for clarifying this.

But I heard thru the grapevine that Cobb's juice was just as good.
But alas it's that damn shipping cost that evens out against a local purchase.

I urge everybody to test protectors side-by-side.
Our Ultraseal solvent protector works on both Carpet and Tile/Grout.
Our Ultraseal protector has FREE shipping if you order a case minimum,
and call the order in.

http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=1226

 

[Jimmy L]

Interested in water based for carpet with great dilutions.
Instead of 4 to 1 , something more concentrated with acid dye ?

 

[Willy P]

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[Scott S.]

Interested in water based for carpet with great dilutions.
Instead of 4 to 1 , something more concentrated with acid dye ?

Jimmy, they are called acid dye blockers. they block dye from penetrating into the pores or scratches on the fibers. they essentually fill the pores with a clear coating preventing dye to become attached to the fiber.

Hint: I just bought another 5 gallons at pembertons, keep selling out.

In my own personal opinion i wouldn't buy solvent based carpet protectant because i dont want kids, and little old ladies coughing and complaining, and then having them say i stunk up their house.

maxim is my favorite for carpet, and maxium for fabric is my fav for upholstery.

i use this stuff on my own home, and i've spilled, food, beer, wife spilled red wine, and pets have had a few accidents, still no stains. 10 year old carpet too.

 

[Jimmy L]

Scott..........Scott.................Scott............Scott. Are you one of those people who seem to take over demos at a supplier BBQ? Had one recently do that..................he knew everything about............" Encapsulation" technology . Was a pitiful sight. But I have witnessed this buffoonery many times at these events over the years. : )

 

[Scott S.]

Scott..........Scott.................Scott............Scott. Are you one of those people who seem to take over demos at a supplier BBQ? Had one recently do that..................he knew everything about............" Encapsulation" technology . Was a pitiful sight. But I have witnessed this buffoonery many times at these events over the years. : )

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy

would your rather hear from someone selling a line of shit, or from people who use the product?

yeah, i know you prefer the line of shit. Sorry was just trying to help you. but whatever buddy. be pissy.

 

[Desk Jockey]

i use this stuff on my own home, and i've spilled, food, beer, wife spilled red wine, and pets have had a few accidents, still no stains.

Scott whut goes on at your house and more importantly....why am I not invited?

 

[Scott S.]

Scott whut goes on at your house and....why am I not invited?

your invited, swing by anytime.

 

[Desk Jockey]

LOL