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WillH

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what's the best way to put it down Electric or hand sprayer? When you mix it up do you make just enough to get you through the house your at?. What is the mixed shelf life ? How much do you put down? I know that last question might be hard to answer. Thanks for your time guys.
 

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Electric Sprayer, I use the Multi Sprayer electric. It has a hand gun for upholstery with an 6501 tip to spray solvent based on upholstery and a wand for carpet that will have an 8004 for water base. The tips are what control your flow along with the 50 psi pump. about 12" to 18" away from fabric and carpet. Nice even coats. Your customer will appreciate the professional application as well, compared to the pump up sprayer people.
 

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I think there are better choices in protection IMO.

If you want a name brand, then I would look at DuPont.

If you want better protection, then I would look at solvent-based fluorochemicals.
 

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Never liked DuPont teflon, it did not keep in a mixed solution. It would clog up screens and jets.
 
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@The Great Oz Says there's teflon in a bag of chips... For all the "sensitive" people out there who think teflon is bad... There's a lot of products we use everyday that has something to do with teflon...

Offer some type of protection and don't look back...
 
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@The Great Oz Says there's teflon in a bag of chips... For all the "sensitive" people out there who think teflon is bad... There's a lot of products we use everyday that has something to do with teflon...

Offer some type of protection and don't look back...
We all have Teflon in our bodies now.
 

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Funny, scotchgard has quite the brand recognition. I was generically answering a protector application question. Didn't think about the actual product being applied.

I talked to Larry Cobb a few weeks ago about all his protector products. I have been using Ultra Seal for years, it is his premier product in his line. At the price point I spray it on everything - Tile, stone, carpet, and upholstery.

Thursday I visited Tom Forsythe's office and picked his brain on protectors and the different product lines he carries. Interlink has a really nice line of protector products. Tom has a water base protector for upholstery I'm going to be playing with. It was designed for the new EPA VOC regulations. Visiting Tom was awesome, His wealth of knowledge can easily flow right over my head (which isn't that hard).

A few things I took away from those visits with Larry and Tom. Both have great products that would be much more effective then Scotchgard in their opinions. I feel competent in trusting both their opinions. I've never tried Scotchgard and don't see myself trying it.
 

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Ask Tom about his encapucleanO2 formulation and if he fixed it yet
 

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I've been laying it down with a Hydroforce. The HF takes care of the dilution if you take out the yellow tip. I carry 2 hydroforces.

I've been thinking of trying a battery sprayer however.
 

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I have been using Teflon for years. I switched back when Scotchgard smelled like paint thinner. I find it to be superior to Scotchgard and it doesn't clog jets for me either. You can't keep either Scotchgard or Teflon after it has been mixed. They both fall out of solution. Mix and use what you need. I usually apply with a compressed air sprayer (pepsi can conversion)
 

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My TCS teflon stores indefinitely.

Wonder why?

The reason most water-based fluorochemicals only have a short time after mixing is due to water hardness.

The harder the water, the shorter the useful life.

We add a chelating agent (softener) to our water-based fluorochemical protectors.
 

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How does your water based protector compare to scotchgard, maxim and teflon?
 

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