she paid a little more

[Curtis Pennington]

Wrong board, Loren.

Amen to that...LMAO

 

[davegillfishing]

great job with the testimonials..i always love it when we get them..

one question. in your gold service it says you Sanitize and deodorize, what do you use to do this? do you apply before the sg or after? and do you feel ti is leaving residue in the carpet?
thanks
dave

 

[Curtis Pennington]

I now consider you PATHETIC Greg.[/quote

What a COD Im a punk and he is pathetic....LMAO




who cares if he posts his customers compliments,shows he does something right even if there related..lol

 

[XTREME1]

one question. in your gold service it says you Sanitize and deodorize, what do you use to do this? do you apply before the sg or after? and do you feel ti is leaving residue in the carpet?

The deoodorizing is more than one process it is sprayed on with the prespray and i also have some in my rinse then I mist some microban and dd12 mix and rake it in then when I am done with the whole job I apply scotchgard and grrom

 

[davegillfishing]

does it add to the dry time? i know the dd12 has a drying agent in it i assume it would help everything dry up faster.

 

[Goldenboy]

Laugh all you want. Loren gets it.


Golden Boy

 

[kmdineen]

one question. in your gold service it says you Sanitize and deodorize, what do you use to do this? do you apply before the sg or after? and do you feel ti is leaving residue in the carpet?

The deoodorizing is more than one process it is sprayed on with the prespray and i also have some in my rinse then I mist some microban and dd12 mix and rake it in then when I am done with the whole job I apply scotchgard and grrom

When I started doing Water Damage work it was acceptable to spray a biocide or anti microbial on affected (wet) areas in a structure. At the time it was accepted knowledge that these products would help more than hurt in any situation. However, after much study, this was not the case. Now a WD company must have a good reason to use these products, supply the homeowner with a MSDS and have written authorization from the home owner to use these products.

Most Biocides are deactivated by organic matter in water or on surfaces. therefore, pre cleaning is an essential first step. However unless you are dealing with pathogenic organisms that require bio-decontamination what benefit does your customer get from applying a biocide or antimicrobial to a clean carpet? What risks are you taking when kids and pets play on this carpet and get residue in their mouths and noses? Antimicrobials are substances used to destroy or suppress growth of microorganisms and people and their pets are made up of lots of microorganisms.

I think the cleaning industry should listen carefully to what many WD guys already know, be very careful with these products.

 

[Curtis Pennington]

Laugh all you want. Loren gets it.


Golden Boy

10-4 if gets it good for him.

 

[XTREME1]

Could you point me to this Study pertaining to microban I know the one dealing with purell but all the information I have on mban has been positive

 

[kmdineen]

Could you point me to this Study pertaining to microban I know the one dealing with purell but all the information I have on mban has been positive

The IICRC S500 Third Edition has information on Biocides and Antimicrobials and their general use.

For a specific product such as Microban reading the MSDS is a good place to start. The WHMIS classification for Microban is D2B.
Class D material are those which can cause harm to the body
Class D is Poisonous and Infectious Material
Divison 2: Materials causing other toxic effects
Subdivision B: Toxic Material

There are places in our industry for these products, however I don't believe their use in maintenance cleaning should be one of them. It is not necessary and plays on a misunderstanding of the product. The terms sanitizing and disinfecting sound good to house wife's. Next time you sell sanitizing and disinfecting ask if its OK to use poisonous, infectious and toxic material to disinfect and see what they say.

 

[XTREME1]

Resistant strains, such as MRSA, are an issue in the medical use of antibiotics, a subset of antimicrobials with particular modes of action and patterns of use. Microban uses general purpose biocides, another subset of antimicrobials, with multiple modes of action, which do not cause resistant strains as demonstrated in both clinical studies and in over a century of use. Triclosan is one of the antimicrobials that are used, is probably one of the most studied of the antimicrobials, and despite all of the hysteria around it has been shown in something like 6-7 clinical studies, including one by the guy who started the whole thing, and 30 years of use to not cause resistant strains. In addition, microbans mode of use of antimicrobials, incorporating them into products so that there is always a greater than inhibitory concentration of antimicrobial available, would minimize the likelihood of development of resistant strains; whereas the use of disinfectants and general purpose antimicrobials, common in medical, public spaces, and the home, continually cycles through substantial periods of sub-inhibitory concentrations, a situation far more likely to result in resistant strains but doesn’t. The focus on triclosan and other general purpose antimicrobials is just a red herring that distracts from the real issues concerning the use of antibiotics

 

[davegillfishing]

you sound like you did your homework and have your game plan down pretty good.


i tell the customers how hot i am cleaning (if the carpet and conditions allow) and feel personally nothing sanitizes like boiling hot water, and without the use of chems.
i use the "no unnecessary chemicals" approach in my business plan. it works great down here in fla but i am sure things are different in other areas.

 

[hogjowl]

I simply make the place look and smell great.

And I don't bother wearing a lab coat.

 

[XTREME1]

There were alot of ads out there in my area about sanitized and disinfected and deodorized etc and I got alot of questions from customers and I called the compettition and they were just blowing smoke but charging so i decided to offer the service but actually do it.

I always deodorized and just by cleaning it is deodorized but I stepped it up with the dd12 and and microban

I was a sutley gill guy before just better looking

 

[Greenie]

There is something to be said for wicked hot water....but then again Loren Gets That too...

 

[davegillfishing]

There were alot of ads out there in my area about sanitized and disinfected and deodorized etc and I got alot of questions from customers and I called the compettition and they were just blowing smoke but charging so i decided to offer the service but actually do it.

I always deodorized and just by cleaning it is deodorized but I stepped it up with the dd12 and and microban

I was a sutley gill guy before just better looking

hey you may be better looking (that sounded gay) but i carry 2 wands into every customers house one stainless and one made out of skin!!

 

[Greenie]

He said a wand, not a detailer.

 

[davegillfishing]

greenie dont make me fly to california and throw it on the table..(man that sounded gay also) i have to go have sex with my wife to get this gayness off of me.
see yall in a few HOURS.

 

[Greenie]

yup...u need to shake the homo tendencies...try some snakes and fire, get that spirit outta your skin.

 

[Guest]

Hey Greg,you might try Benifect,feel alot better about leaving it behind.Just a thought.

 

[XTREME1]

I like the product but look at the only supplier in massachusetts

 

[Guest]

Well at least they do not make it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

greenie dont make me fly to california and throw it on the table..(man that sounded gay also) i have to go have sex with my wife to get this gayness off of me.
see yall in a few HOURS.

:shock:


:mrgreen:

 

[pelicanpete]

Whats a "Carpet Care Kit"?
Bob


I got my butt over here Greenie

 

[XTREME1]

Host compound
Spotter
Carpet care pamphlet

if she is really hot a deodorizer

 

[hogjowl]

Who invited JoJo Bamboo? :shock:

 

[Desk Jockey]

Who taught him to clean Oriental rugs while they hang? I like the Pelican on your website.

"splain it to me Lucy" why do you call him JoJo Bambo?

Bob why do you let Porkchop call you names?

 

[XTREME1]

I hate to be a narcisist but this is about ME and my GREATNESS

 

[hogjowl]

Greg:

We're so used to yours that we overlook it at times.

Besides, jImMY and Jim are my idols now and I only have room for two.

 

[pelicanpete]

I use to be in the witness protection program
and that was my name, jojo bamboo.

But that was years ago,
back when there was just cleanfax BB
and the club FOJL
and Ron Curtis would tell us viet nam storys
and i had a prochen 100A
a long long time ago

ahhh the good old days
now i'm trying to get use to this new BB
...so to answer pig boys question,
I invited myowndamnself