Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some both.

[cucu]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

i dont care what you say Bob ..i aint hanging up me belt buckel

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

 

[Mikey P]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Next month I'm going to offer 5 rugs, any size, cleaned in your driveway for $124.95.



We are not responsible for drying the rugs
We will not replace the rugs in your home
if husband drives over said rugs, you're sol
Shrinkage, bleeding and brown fringes are not our problem
Fresh bird, dog and cat shit can be removed with your garden hose at full pressure
Sunny days recommended
hand tied rugs are $49 extra per rug if we can identify their country of origin
Minimum charge of $150 applies.

 

[Mikey P]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Next month I'm going to offer 5 rugs, any size, cleaned in your driveway for $124.95.



We are not responsible for drying the rugs
We will not replace the rugs in your home
if husband drives over said rugs, you're sol
Shrinkage, bleeding and brown fringes are not our problem
Fresh bird, dog and cat shit can be removed with your garden hose at full pressure
Sunny days recommended
hand tied rugs are $49 extra per rug if we can identify their country of origin
Minimum charge of $150 applies.

 

[Greg Cole]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

I agree but I also never feel bad when someone choses the low end and complains that they didn't get what they expected.

If you're on a budget or just don't value cleaning then chose the middle but the bottom is always going to be risky what ever service you are purchasing.

I think Greg just may work harder with subs than if he had employees.

But with less profit margin......

 

[Greg Cole]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Come on Bob...Tell us how you reallly feel. lol


Yes there are scum out there...But if you generized intire segments of the industry you might want to look in the mirror.


I would bet that Greg has both hacks and pros on his "team"...But I would also bet he weeds the hacks out eventually....Or more to the point...They weed themselves out.

I've had some bad subs.....That's really why I'm cleaning for myself in this area. Hard to find good people willing to work....And even get paid well. lol

I won't put up with a hack for very long at all.....As soon as I figure it out. lol

You are correct in that our Ops managers get those types out quickly!

 

[Greg Cole]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

[quote="Mikey P":16u8yz3l]Next month I'm going to offer 5 rugs, any size, cleaned in your driveway for $124.95.



We are not responsible for drying the rugs
We will not replace the rugs in your home
if husband drives over said rugs, you're sol
Shrinkage, bleeding and brown fringes are not our problem
Fresh bird, dog and cat shit can be removed with your garden hose at full pressure
Sunny days recommended
hand tied rugs are $49 extra per rug if we can identify their country of origin
Minimum charge of $150 applies.

[/quote:16u8yz3l]

Great idea! lmao

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Cole who do you think you kidding? All you care about is which guys brings in the most money and which ones you need to fire because they don't bring in as much. How clean customers carpets are is the last thing on your mind.

 

[Ken Snow]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

What evidence do you have of that Bob?

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[FB7777]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Now you're just talking crazy Ken

 

[Ken Snow]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

:-)

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[Brian R]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Now you're just talking crazy Ken

LMAO

 

[Greg Cole]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

What evidence do you have of that Bob?

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LOL! He has non - BECAUSE he is dead wrong. Of course when has having evidence ever stopped Bob from running at the mouth?

BOB: Of course we care about clean carpet. Manager have strict guidelines about complaint and reclean percentages they have to hit If the contractor screws that up it costs the manager between $10-$20k in bonuses. Bad cleaners are quickly run out the door. But thanks for actually asking and learning about my business BEFORE you run off at the mouth and make baseless accusations.

 

[Brian R]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

I feel for ya Cole...Bob gives me grief about everything I've ever done that isn't what he does.


Fear of the Dark.

 

[Greg Cole]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

But then there are these companies that

blanket communities with ridiculously low priced coupons,

use non-uniformed subcontractors

in very un-carpet cleaning like trucks and cars

and pay these "workers" crap

In my opinion, this type of operation DOES NOTHING BUT BAD THINGS for the reputation of our industry.


I am not against multi-truck companies or coupons or lower priced cleaning. But behind the scenes, when what really is being delivered to the customer is much different than what they think is being delivered is ethically wrong.

Some deliver this right, and some don't.

So is expecting someone to run all over town working their asses off for next to nothing in earnings.

So how is this any different than paying a guy $10 an hour to runn all over town in your van working hiss butt off while you are making $300 a job? You make $1200 - your guy makes $80. You must be an unscrupulous bastard. How dare you take advantage of people like that? <sarcasim> You need to be more socialistic! :roll: Go work for the Obama campaign! shiteatinggrin

 

[Greg Cole]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

I feel for ya Cole...Bob gives me grief about everything I've ever done that isn't what he does.


Fear of the Dark.

LOL! Sounds like Bob needs a laxative! shiteatinggrin

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

A diaper spinner and a splash-n-dasher giving each other reach-arounds... :roll:


BFD

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

There is a balance in doing the very best you can in the interests of customers carpets (genuine customer satisfaction), their wallet (value for their money) and the well being of your company (fair pricing for yourself AND those that work with you).

What I see is an imbalance of these factors and the hollow justification is that is all the customer really wanted. I believe that most did want more even if their expectations of price were unrealistic. Now who told them that they could get it done at that price?

What happens is it leaves people sold short of what could be done to their carpets and many get the impression that carpets are bad, cleaners are really not that good and many look unprofessional.

The value proposition delivered by any professional to a customer at minimum should be a good job, be it not complete with all the bells and whistles.

The jobs for the most part being offered by the bottom of the barrel fall short of this value. This begs the question then why should someone offer a pricing structure that will not deliver at least good carpet cleaning?

Now don't even attempt to go down the path of, for example, that 1 step in-tank cleaning solution suck and run is good carpet cleaning because it clearly isn't. The results of that work leave a carpet in many cases worse than it was before it was cleaned because it attracts so much soil from the cleaning agent residue. This perpetuates the reputation that carpet is a problematic maintenance item and maybe even carpet is a poor choice for flooring.

Here's an analogy. If you took advantage of a low price offer to get your oil changed only to find out that the oil filter is extra you would find it unacceptable . If over a period of time a lot of people assumed because they see this type of oil change that it means that its OK not to get an oil filter when you get the oil changed eventually the car manufacturers would push back due to the effects of bad maintenance. Oil change guys would get a reputation of being unscrupulous. I see the unrealistically low priced bottom of the barrel mass advertised cleaning as misleading and not in anyone's interests but the greedy.

The slippery slope that we as a whole profession pay dearly for.

 

[Brian R]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Walmart gives people what they want...The people that want it anyway. Not saying it's crap but you get what you pay for....Might even be a little better than that.

It's hard to judge other companies....Especially from an internet board a coupon put out.

I can only go by what people say about themselves but even then it's far from the truth probably.

But who's to say?.....It's fun at least.

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Walmart gives people what they want...The people that want it anyway. Not saying it's crap but you get what you pay for....Might even be a little better than that.

It's hard to judge other companies....Especially from an internet board a coupon put out.

I can only go by what people say about themselves but even then it's far from the truth probably.

But who's to say?.....It's fun at least.

The point is, they aren't getting what they think they are paying for.

 

[Brian R]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

How the hell do you know what they're getting?



Where's Ken when I need him??

 

[Bob Foster]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Nobody can properly clean a room of carpet for 8-10 bucks.

 

[Brian R]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

I can

 

[Able 1]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

I can

:roll: Harper's pic. up top is what I think..

 

[Ken Snow]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

How the hell do you know what they're getting?



Where's Ken when I need him??

It's starting to feel like just beating my head aganst the wall. Bob has gotten himself into a place where he has lost the ability for rational thought on this so he has to keep insulting or making accusations. At this point he isn't interested in facts or learning he's in too deep.

 

[lust1kiddo]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Personally I don't mind the loser rip off carpet cleaners..they make me look amazing when someone calls and I show up.

I wear blue jeans and have my own logo'd shirt..and my adidas. (and all my tattoo's..right bob?)

I don't have a van..just my own SUV.

I show up on time..and my reputation is very good..

People can smell when someone is genuine..and my knowledge of the industry because I give a shit enough to READ and practice good business principles keeps people calling me. In NY..most of the carpet cleaning companies are Israeli..and I dont give a **** if people get offended because I am a Jew also..but they extort the customers..3 times what I charge for half the work.
Shit always smells like shit boys..if you're a good honest cleaner and aren't making money, then that just means you're a bad business person..which is something you can learn a lot faster than the jerkoff who wants to be a gentleman.

Stay Gold.

 

[Brian R]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

[quote="Brian R":3a0bkal3]I can

:roll: Harper's pic. up top is what I think..[/quote:3a0bkal3]


I didn't say I would make any money doing it.

 

[Connor]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

Personally I don't mind the loser rip off carpet cleaners..they make me look amazing when someone calls and I show up.

I wear blue jeans and have my own logo'd shirt..and my adidas. (and all my tattoo's..right bob?)

I don't have a van..just my own SUV.

I show up on time..and my reputation is very good..

People can smell when someone is genuine..and my knowledge of the industry because I give a shit enough to READ and practice good business principles keeps people calling me. In NY..most of the carpet cleaning companies are Israeli..and I dont give a ACE if people get offended because I am a Jew also..but they extort the customers..3 times what I charge for half the work.
Shit always smells like shit boys..if you're a good honest cleaner and aren't making money, then that just means you're a bad business person..which is something you can learn a lot faster than the jerkoff who wants to be a gentleman.

Stay Gold.

Lewd, Jew'd and tattooed.

 

[Connor]

Re: Some clean carpet, some make money, some either, some bo

In NY..most of the carpet cleaning companies are Israeli

So, they are Israeli citizen owned companies, not home grown United States American Jews?

 

[sam miller]

The idea people work for someone else as though it's forced labor is laughable in this place! Are we in China?