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Ed brought up something that I found trying to use the CFX Ranger..

I had to plug into my Garbage Disposal and my washer/drier's 20 amp outlets along with a bathrooms gfi for the heater...3 damn cords.

How many home owners are going to let you do that on a regular basis?

Are MEGA Porty guys also unplugging refrigerators too?

or are most carrying generators at this point?



Have at it Chavez...
 

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3 power cords is do able in a condo/apt. I am using 3 15 amp cords regularly. My machine produces 140 inches water lift with aprox 200 CFM. I have used it up to 150 ft with no problem. 500 psi at 1.5gpm. do you need more than that? I use an edic heater on its own power cord. 2 cords without heat, 3 with heat. I usually leave my machine in the hallway outside the suite and run hose inside. I have the option of 2 inch or 1.5 hose depending on the length of the hose run.
 
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Great comment, Mikey.

Any manufacturer in this Industry who would ever make a system (for example) that requires plugging into 240v outlets, or over-loading their conglomeration of a machine is totally ridiculous and should be escorted to the gallows.
If a cleaner came into my home and had to move the oven, and/or washer/dryer, thereby knocking them off balance, my wife would hit them over the head with a baseball bat!

No, there are better choices out there.
 
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I cant imagine the prep letter they must send out..


Please empty your refrigerator and freezer of any foods you dont want ruined.

Please do your laundry some other day
And, WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GOUGING CAUSED BY MOVING YOUR FRIDGE, DEEP FREEZE, OVEN, OR MICROWAVE..... as we need to plug into all these outlets to clean your 2 bedrooms....
 
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If you are concerned about having enough vacuum for cleaning, then just run your ETM or portable from the van where the pressure pump and heater (either LP or diesel) stay in the van. You run the steam line inside as far as 500 feet if necessary, using 1 cord way less than 15 amps.

Then all you need to take in is your vacuum system, you can use the same cord that you also used for the high pressure pump for one vac, and plug the other vac into a 15 amp outlet (2 circuits - both 15 amp). That should clean just about any residence with truckmount power.

Electric heaters are a joke, especially if you are running #8 flow or greater!

I have never moved a fridge, washer, or dryer in order to plug in, and I don't need to use 20 amp circuits!

A kitchen refrigerator is usually on it's own circuit. If I see a fridge in the garage, I do NOT plug in there at all.
 
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The main reason carpet cleaners are looking for portables that they can run from their truck, is cost. They imagine that if only they had just a little more power, they could compete with a truck mount at maybe half the cost. Most of the time, they are deceiving themselves.

Think about what you really need. First, you need a machine that has enough vacuum power to run a 150ft. hose, a pump that can give you good pressure at that distance, you need an auto fill/dump system, some type of heater, (probably propane) a generator (6000-8000 watts), fuel tanks, (gas and propane) and all of the extra hoses you need. You will also be limited to only a 150 feet unless you use a vac booster which needs more electric power.

Now, if you just want a powerful portable to go where your truck mount can't go, you need a machine with 2 power cords, 2-powerful vac motors (preferably in parallel) can be 2-13.5 amp 3 stage or the newer 6.6 or 8.4 vac motors, a pump than can give you at least 300 psi at 1.5 gpm (4-flow). You can add auto fill/pump out if you wish but if you are only using it for suites, it's a bit of a waste. The machine should have 2 inch plumbing through out. This will enable you to add extra hose when necessary.

I have many highrise penthouses that I do, where instead of bringing the machine upstairs, I just add extra hose. The downfall of most machines like this is the size and weight. This is not a machine that will easily go up and down stairs, which is why you want a truck mount in the first place. The buildings where I use my portable all have elevators. Any portable, is not the right machine for cleaning houses. Yes, you can do it but it is a brutal job, which is why portables get such a bad rep. Small, single cord portables are great for upholstery cleaning and for the odd job where you just can't get in with your truck mount but they have very limited power.

It is easy to find enough power in a suite for even the larger portables but can be very difficult to find in some commercial settings, such as when cleaning apt. hallways and stairs. Often, there is only one power outlet in each hall. Most of the so called "Mega Portables" are a pita to use. You can get all the power you need from 2 15 amp circuits, if the machine is designed right. You will need to add a 3rd power cord to get heat. Instead of heat, maybe thing of adding something like a Rotovac 360i.
 
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Other than being a birds nest of stuff, the CFX is fine. I only run two cords and I don’t need them to be 20-amp. I try to leave bathroom lights off and when I turn on the vacuums, I watch for any light dimming and turn them off, too.

The real hassle is in having to hook up a water line and run the drain line to a toilet.
Heat is almost never my concern. The home’s hot water heater keeps up to the flow and though it is not near boiling (like trucks) it is plenty to rinse with. In fact, I never have issues with heat setting nap or fabric, so that is nice. I do every job with the 360i because it helps level the field against higher heat; I have yet to be disappointed in the results.

In short with the CFX Ranger there are a lot of things to be hooked up and then rolled up later. With my low work load, it is okay. I do NOT recommend that young men or women buy one instead of a decent TM because of the time factor.
 
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Okay which portable out of the box do you suggest?
I like the style of the Mytee portables. I have an old one that I had to modify from 1 cord to 2 because it was a 20 amp machine. I would talk to Mytee to see if they sell a Speedster, or can custom make one for you with the 2-13.5 amp vacs and a 300-500 psi pump that will use just 2 -15 amp circuits. Its not that Mytee makes the best portables but for general use, the speedster goes up and down stairs fairly easy and has good handles for lifting it into the van. The parallel vac configuration gives you enough airflow to use 2 inch hose and tools. I have been using my speedster on small jobs instead of my custom portable and so far, I am happy with it.
 

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If you are concerned about having enough vacuum for cleaning, then just run your ETM or portable from the van where the pressure pump and heater (either LP or diesel) stay in the van. You run the steam line inside as far as 500 feet if necessary, using 1 cord way less than 15 amps.

Then all you need to take in is your vacuum system, you can use the same cord for one vac, and plug the other vac into a 15 amp outlet. That should clean just about any residence with truckmount power.

Electric heaters are a joke, especially if you are running #8 flow or greater!

I have never moved a fridge, washer, or dryer in order to plug in, and I don't need to use 20 amp circuits!

A kitchen refrigerator is usually on it's own circuit. If I see a fridge in the garage, I do NOT plug in there at all.
Bob, we used to have a guy here making units like that. 70 gallon water tank, 1hp motor and general pump, lg propane heater and a portable 20 gallon portable vacuum tank. Worked excellent except he needed more vac power. I am thinking of copying the idea but I will power the pump with a small (2000 watt) Honda generator, very quiet and economical and removes 1 power cord. Building an aluminum vacuum tank with 2 vacs in parallel. Very light and easy to go up and down stairs, no problem finding 2 power outlets most of the time.
 

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Ed brought up something that I found trying to use the CFX Ranger..

I had to plug into my Garbage Disposal and my washer/drier's 20 amp outlets along with a bathrooms gfi for the heater...3 damn cords.

How many home owners are going to let you do that on a regular basis?

Are MEGA Porty guys also unplugging refrigerators too?

or are most carrying generators at this point?



Have at it Chavez...
3 cords huh? Sure I think most homeowners wouldn't mind a little hopscotch over black spaghetti. :oldrolleyes:

My wife would toss you out on your ass and deservedly so. That's just not professional on ANY level.

I hope if any of you fool's are doing this that you at least...at the very least part that unit outside the living space. Otherwise all that crap you are sucking is being mixed with humidity and belched out into the living space.

Not only is the breathing environment grossly changed but the humidity added will hamper drying.

Guys guys GUYS do yourself and mostly your clients, give them a number to someone with a TM. You'll sleep better at night! :winky:
 

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Ron, after the the pictures of your stair wand collection extravaganza, could we see pictures of your portables collection?

Richard, so now your wife has a portable vendetta too?
What a family.
Are you guys strictly on well water? :winky:
 
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Ron, after the the pictures of your stair wand collection extravaganza, could we see pictures of your portables collection?

Richard, so now your wife has a portable vendetta too?
What a family.
Are you guys strictly on well water? :winky:
I only have 4 working machines and 3 empty shells.
 

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3 cords huh? Sure I think most homeowners wouldn't mind a little hopscotch over black spaghetti. :oldrolleyes:

My wife would toss you out on your ass and deservedly so. That's just not professional on ANY level.

I hope if any of you fool's are doing this that you at least...at the very least part that unit outside the living space. Otherwise all that crap you are sucking is being mixed with humidity and belched out into the living space.

Not only is the breathing environment grossly changed but the humidity added will hamper drying.

Guys guys GUYS do yourself and mostly your clients, give them a number to someone with a TM. You'll sleep better at night! :winky:
Not hard to keep your cords nice and neat. I agree that a portable does off gas what goes into the waste tank. Doesn't really affect the drying time. Powerful portables usually do stay out of the living areas to some degree. Haven't heard of anyone dying because their carpets were cleaned with a portable. If I cleaned your wife's carpets, she would leave you in a heartbeat and run off with me. Portable or not.
 

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Only four. Damn. Sorry to hear that Ron.
They all have a different purpose. I have an old ninja that I put a high pressure pump on top of and use for hard surface floors. An 17 gallon single cord NSS rustler that I use in low power buildings or for upholstery. A modified Mytee speedster for small jobs in highrises and of course my Cleanworks Monster 24 gallon beast that is my main machine for highrise condos. I think I like collecting machines more than actually cleaning carpets. Also have a sprayborg, 2 Cimex machines, a couple of 175's, a spare truck mount, and tons of misc. Accessories and parts. Now if only I had some employees and the work to go along with it.
 

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Ron, after the the pictures of your stair wand collection extravaganza, could we see pictures of your portables collection?

Richard, so now your wife has a portable vendetta too?
What a family.
Are you guys strictly on well water? :winky:
She hates them more than I do. When I bring a spotting machine home she looks at me with "that" look and asks "what are you doing with that?"

She expects a TM or I'm giving it less than I should.
 
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She hates them more than I do. When I bring a spotting machine home she looks at me with "that" look and asks "what are you doing with that?"

She expects a TM or I'm giving it less than I should.
She's just picking up on your attitude. She knows if you're bringing in a spotting machine, you're just being lazy.
 
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Got pics .. Id like to see.
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Ed brought up something that I found trying to use the CFX Ranger..

I had to plug into my Garbage Disposal and my washer/drier's 20 amp outlets along with a bathrooms gfi for the heater...3 damn cords.

How many home owners are going to let you do that on a regular basis?

Are MEGA Porty guys also unplugging refrigerators too?

or are most carrying generators at this point?

Most full time porty guys know enough to avoid portable units with on-board heat as a primary everyday unit.

Poor choice.

No more than ONE 20amp circuit, and ONE 15amp circuit should be expected regularly for a primary daily unit unless you know how to play the amp game, and as far as I am concerned, squirt and suck should never be compromised for the small return that electric heating elements offer, and the issues they may create.

Porty life is a constant cord and amp game.

Starts with doing your math and identifying your cords.

Not being a porty Jedi, you likely just see 3 separate cords.

A porty Jedi sees cord A, cord B, and cord C, always knows which one is which, knows which components each cord feeds, and knows the appx amp requirements of each cord.
 

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