the New Zipper SS..

[Mikey P]

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[kingjoelking]

Problems we've had with the hard surface spinners/turbos is the hub that spins (for lack of a part name) goes out frequently
and they're expensive to replace. We have 8 or 9 of these floor tools. We've re-built them but that's a pain. It appears the Zipper uses a spinning part too. Would we have the same difficulties?

how often is frequesntly? Ive had my Original Black Turbo for 7 years and have never replaced the swivel and I have had my turbo Hybrid that I bought used and was allready 3-4 years old and have replaced the swivel once.

 

[Joe Appleby]

Anytime I pay for a piece over $200.00 to replace on a floor tool, it's too much. No less than once a year if we're lucky.

We run 3 hard surface vans that use them daily as well as our soft surface vans pull them out occasionally.

If I put the same hours on two swivels per zipper for commercial work, I can't imagine the expense. Prove me wrong. Maybe there's a better swivel?

 

[hogjowl]

Whenever I remember to take the pill is frequently enough for me.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Who is going to do the cleaning pass testing between the CX-15 and this rotary cleaner ? ?

I would suggest some photos after a single pass,

and instrumentation for checking the moisture left after a single cleaning pass.

We used an Extech non-invasive moisture meter across the width in our wand testing . . .

 

[Jack Zipper Zerkie]

Cleaned a CGD today this is the 8th year of my cleaning . The carpet was filthy I used Cobbs pre spray and the Zipper this time .I have used the RX 20 but the Zipper did a better job cleaner and dryer my recovery tanks were 90% full half way through the job had to empty twice The RX 20 didn,t recover as much and I tried to work at he same pace. This is my third commercial this weekend and that's a lot for me. Time to play the drums tonight with my jazz trio almost as much fun as carpet cleaning jz.

 

[GeneMiller]

Who is going to do the cleaning pass testing between the CX-15 and this rotary cleaner ? ?

I would suggest some photos after a single pass,

and instrumentation for checking the moisture left after a single cleaning pass.

We used an Extech non-invasive moisture meter across the width in our wand testing . . .

Larry I'm more concerned with time to clean an area than how clean after one pass. Both are important but I track time to get it clean. The zipper is going to clean both ways, no wasted time walking back to the beginning. That factor needs to be taken into consideration when testing. I would clean a square and then check for time, dryness and of course how clean.

Gene.

 

[Russ T.]

Larry I'm more concerned with time to clean an area than how clean after one pass. Both are important but I track time to get it clean. The zipper is going to clean both ways, no wasted time walking back to the beginning. That factor needs to be taken into consideration when testing. I would clean a square and then check for time, dryness and of course how clean.

Gene.

...a real world cleaners perspective.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Larry I'm more concerned with time to clean an area than how clean after one pass. Both are important but I track time to get it clean. The zipper is going to clean both ways, no wasted time walking back to the beginning. That factor needs to be taken into consideration when testing. I would clean a square and then check for time, dryness and of course how clean.

Gene.

Gene;

I've done many cycles of wand testing with 12", 14", Rotary Extractors, CX-15 and "prototype" / production Zippers.

The only wand that cleaned as well in both directions was the rotary extractors.

The amount of water sprayed down should be measured, as Jim Martin did in Vegas.

It is hard to control all the variables for repeatable testing.

It is very difficult to even try to do a meaningful test for say a 100 sq.ft area repeatedly.

The carpet that J2 sprayed with soil evenly in Las Vegas was the exception for uniform soiling of test carpet.

One pass IS the industry standard for comparing wand performance.

We did time our passes when we recently tested the Mytee TRex Jr. vs. the Zipper.

Larry

P.S. The IICRC productivity study did do some good testing on cleaning rates and effectiveness for different cleaning techniques.
Scott Warrington is heading that committee now .

 

[Zee]

Gene;

I've done many cycles of wand testing with 12", 14", Rotary Extractors, CX-15 and "prototype" / production Zippers.

The only wand that cleaned as well in both directions was the rotary extractors.

The amount of water sprayed down should be measured, as Jim Martin did in Vegas.

It is hard to control all the variables for repeatable testing.

It is very difficult to even try to do a meaningful test for say a 100 sq.ft area repeatedly.

The carpet that J2 sprayed with soil evenly in Las Vegas was the exception for uniform soiling of test carpet.

One pass IS the industry standard for comparing wand performance.

We did time our passes when we recently tested the Mytee TRex Jr. vs. the Zipper.

Larry

P.S. The IICRC productivity study did do some good testing on cleaning rates and effectiveness for different cleaning techniques.
Scott Warrington is heading that committee now .

I still don't understand: why do you people keep trying to compare a rotary extractor to a wand, like a Zipper??

They are completely different in what they can do and how they do it.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Zee Zee ZEE! Larry doesn't sell a Zipper so he has to promote the tools he sells.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Rotary Extractors and Zippers are both over $2000 investments . . .

I think that deserves some side-by-side testing.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Two great tools to have in your tool box but you need BOTH not either or. Just ask Saiger!

 

[Zee]

Rotary Extractors and Zippers are both over $2000 investments . . .

I think that deserves some side-by-side testing.

Now you're just trolling...

I can buy a 2000 dollar gaming computer and play GTA V...or I can buy a 2000 dollar Honda Civic.

I can have the feeling of driving around with both but not the same. I can run over unsuspecting pedestrians with both but not quite the same.


I realize that it's not the best example but you can translate the idea to anything: 2000 dollar lawn mower and a 2000 dollar bush trimming machine. You can cut grass with both but not the same.

Edit: maybe a 2000 dollar ring and a 2000 dollar necklace is good too as a comparison. I want to see a test when they are testing how the ring fits on the neck. They're both jewelry items and they both priced at 2000 dollars.

 

[rhino1]

having just ordered a zipper, I factored in these major things when upgrading from a regular wand
1. Ease of use (since I use employees, it had to be uncomplicated)
2. Limiting damage to customers homes - I have seen photos of spinning tools that left scuffs on adjacent wood and tile floors, not to mention stories of problems created with pile distortion, etc.
3, Weight of the unit (didn't want anyone to have to drag out an 80 lb beast on every job.
4. Didn't want an electric cord to deal with
5. The cx 15 may be a good option, not sure about the spinning bar not streaking the carpet

There is no single one tool that will be the best in every situation, I think the zipper will make life a bit easier for us though